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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-26 07:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1575 ]

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Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 132 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
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Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this secret so much. This shit on LJ has gone far out of hand. If you're familiar with 4chan, you know how hateful language like fag and 'woman get back to the kitchen' is common place?

Well, Livejournal is the polar opposite, and it's just as bad. Anyone who uses language that could VAGUELY be offensive to ANYONE is dogpiled. And not just in the activism communities. I've seen people being vilified for using the word "lame" and men attacked for the sin of finding a woman attractive.

Cut this shit out, and you know who you are. You're part of the problem. By acting like PC police, you're making actual problems seem less valid because you come off like crazy people.

Be reasonable, and calm the hell down.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
crazy people

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU SAID THOSE WORDS

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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
in b4 "you sound white/cis/male"

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
you would tout this shit. do us all a favor and get rid of your internet slimey dickweasel

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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even get an "hth?"

That's no way to treat an old friend.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
i think you should lose contact with normal, decent internet people is all. what is a "hth?"

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
shut the fuck up you fucking piece of shit

you have no goddamn room to talk

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
nona in comparison to all the other shit in this thread leafing's comment is actually not that bad

srsly quit stroking that hateboner. i know she's kind of a shit sometimes, but focus your rage on someone more deserving of it atm, pls?

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
oh but it's true

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
no

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[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
where is this vitriol coming from? i want to know, tell me the gossip

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
omg ikr

i'm so lost and confused by this rage

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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
ABRIDGED VERSION:

One time I said that there are a lot of things I don't understand about SJ (the example I used was "is it transman, trans man, or trans-man?" I don't know because I've never known anyone who cared. Not that I talk to people anyway.) and it got posted on sf_drama

Shit exploded, I got really upset and mentioned that I felt so bad that I started cutting, someone made a snide response to it, then I cut a reply to them into my arm and posted a picture of it

Now they've been kind of following me around slapping me in the face with their hateboners

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[identity profile] leafing.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
also I'm transphobic now apparently

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
eh shut the fuck up you stupid asshole. no1buddy curr.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's no one buddy care, get it right. If you're going to be a twat, at least be grammatically correct.

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[identity profile] radio-nurse.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's just as bad to have a lot of people pointing out hateful language as it is to have a lot of people using hateful language.

Uh. Okay.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yes it is. And it's not pointing out, it's attacking. Over trivial bullshit.

And to clarify, someone actually using hateful language =/= OMG HE HAS A CRUSH THAT HE FINDS ATTRACTIVE HOW DARE YOU YOU CHAUVINISTIC PIG YOU ONLY THINK WOMEN ARE OBJECTS!!!

And I've been watching this for ten years now. I love the LJ community, but seriously. Calm the fuck down. It makes people with reason and sense want to pull their hair out.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
did you read the fucking OP bc they make it very clear they think hateful language and slurs are totally okay and everyone should use them and anyone who dislikes them is just butthurt

also this reads like a textbook strawman jsyk

unless you can provide some links to someone raging at a man for admitting he finds a woman attractive - not for objectifying her, just for finding her attractive - shut the fuck up and go away

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU.

If I had a quarter for every time someone got upset over non-issues with regard to women in fandom (especially with regard to slash fics), I'd be able to pay off the national debt, buy Microsoft, and still have a pool full of money, Scrooge McDuck style.

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[identity profile] radio-nurse.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I would disagree. Let's use myself as an example. I'm queer, and have experienced homophobia in various forms over the course of my life. Some homophobic language been used against me, so seeing hateful homophobic language can hurt.

This is a lot different from someone who is straight using a homophobic slur and being called on it from multiple people, even if they are being attacked personally and insulted without reason, which by the way I DO NOT condone because that is bullying. And the original homophobic language in question? Is not trivial to me.

And if they are not being attacked personally? You can't really make a case, it's not the same at all. Honestly, as far as I've observed most of the time it's not personal attacks or anything like the example you've used. When comments like that are made, like in this thread, they tend to be anons who seem to be trying to stir both sides into fights more than actually making a point.

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[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2011-04-27 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
But it totally is! By making your sentiments regarding slurs and general unfairness on the internet apparent, you make people who already don't care about using slurs and okay with general unfairness upset because they have to scroll more.

That's totally the same thing as the intent to be hurtful.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, you used the word crazy!! HDU!

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Someone's buttmad.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
lol. 6/10