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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-04 07:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1583 ⌋


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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2011-05-05 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely, introducing her right before Rose was always going to rile some people up. I mean, there's always going to be people who instinctively dislike a new ship because it messes with their old ship, but since Ten/Rose was a big aspect of s4, throwing River in there immediately before Rose's return was a bit messy IMO. Also, it seems like he wrote the episode with the assumption that River would get to spend more time with Ten, and when that didn't happen it's not like he can really go back and change that, so now we're left wondering why River has a version of Ten's screwdriver, why River thought Ten was at the Byzantium, and how anyone could think Ten looks younger than Eleven.

[identity profile] othellia.livejournal.com 2011-05-05 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Messy" is a really good way to put it.

Moffat probably got the idea that he'd use all his future one-story-per-season-under-RTD episodes to reintroduce River over and over (including the Byzantium), but then Tennant decided to leave, RTD followed, and the rest is... well, history.

As for Ten looking younger than Eleven, I always assumed she meant it as sort of a eyes-are-the-windows-to-the-soul thing. Like reading his age from his expressions and stuff and coming to the conclusion that he was much younger because the events of Journey's End, End of Time, etc hadn't happened yet. Of course, you could be right in Moffat thinking Eleven's actor would be older; we were all pretty much in shock when Matt Smith was cast. Oh the Patterson Joseph fans...

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/ 2011-05-05 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
I think -- could be wrong with my timelines, but I think -- that Moffat would have known he was the up and coming showrunner, but not that David Tennant was necessarily leaving. So I guess it was kind of a gamble, but not one that worked out for them.

Yeahhh, but I guess I don't really feel like we ever see JE, EOT etc reflected in Eleven. They keep saying s6 will be much darker and maybe it will be, but Eleven in s5 is generally a pretty chipper dude. But yeah I do think it is also partially casting confusion lol.