[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1583 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 83 secrets from Secret Submission Post #226.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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Comments

[othellia.livejournal.com]

I felt this way as well. Like in season 4, we were supposed to accept her as this great, all-knowing, eventual love interest of the Doctor when we still had a bunch of Rose and Donna drama going on that was the main focus of the season. But then in season five, we actually start getting to know her and now she's an actual character instead of a mystery woman who just says "spoilers" a lot.

[chibisaturn.livejournal.com]

Exactly. Even now, as much as I love River, I'm not quite on board with the whole true love thing, but I find the character much more enjoyable. And I will admit to enjoying the flirting, even if had me flailing as much as it did the Doctor.

[othellia.livejournal.com]

I'm hoping the mid-season reveal of whatever she did to go to prison will be actually live up to Moffat's hype and end up affecting the relationship that the Doctor and River have right now because that would be awesome to see and add another layer to their growing relationship.

And yeah, hardcore Doctor/Rose shipper here, but that part had me flailing as well and now I can honesty say I ship both.

[chibisaturn.livejournal.com]

I'm kind of hoping for an epic twist in the reveal. Not any specific one, just something. Baring that, yes, it had better live up to the hype.

I haven't been able to get on board with the Doctor/river shipping. I'm usually pretty easy going as far as ships go, but I have a hard time finding Eleven fic because so much of it's Eleven/River or Eleven/Amy, and I have so much do-not-want for those pairings. Although, thanks to a comment on here a few days ago, I have a sudden hankering for Canton/Doctor.

[othellia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, an unexpected twist would be nice.

As for the shipping, time_and_chips has a lot of Eleven/Rose (http://time-and-chips.livejournal.com/tag/eleventh%20doctor) stuff, but that's because they're a Doctor/Rose community. (And then if I can promote myself, I wrote a small three part (http://aws-fic.livejournal.com/1071.html) fic (http://aws-fic.livejournal.com/1367.html) that has 11/Amy/Rory running into 10/Rose and tries to follow canon as much as possible.) But yeah, other than that, Eleven/River, and Eleven/Amy (plus a tiny amount of Eleven/Rory) there isn't much else. (http://aws-fic.livejournal.com/810.html) ()

[chibisaturn.livejournal.com]

I didn't even think to check time_and_chips. I have been a bit spoiled by Merlin and NuTrek fandoms' fic cataloging systems, and tend to give up on a com if it doesn't reach a certain ratio of effort to reward.

I shall check those out. Thanks!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Absolutely, introducing her right before Rose was always going to rile some people up. I mean, there's always going to be people who instinctively dislike a new ship because it messes with their old ship, but since Ten/Rose was a big aspect of s4, throwing River in there immediately before Rose's return was a bit messy IMO. Also, it seems like he wrote the episode with the assumption that River would get to spend more time with Ten, and when that didn't happen it's not like he can really go back and change that, so now we're left wondering why River has a version of Ten's screwdriver, why River thought Ten was at the Byzantium, and how anyone could think Ten looks younger than Eleven.

[othellia.livejournal.com]

"Messy" is a really good way to put it.

Moffat probably got the idea that he'd use all his future one-story-per-season-under-RTD episodes to reintroduce River over and over (including the Byzantium), but then Tennant decided to leave, RTD followed, and the rest is... well, history.

As for Ten looking younger than Eleven, I always assumed she meant it as sort of a eyes-are-the-windows-to-the-soul thing. Like reading his age from his expressions and stuff and coming to the conclusion that he was much younger because the events of Journey's End, End of Time, etc hadn't happened yet. Of course, you could be right in Moffat thinking Eleven's actor would be older; we were all pretty much in shock when Matt Smith was cast. Oh the Patterson Joseph fans...

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I think -- could be wrong with my timelines, but I think -- that Moffat would have known he was the up and coming showrunner, but not that David Tennant was necessarily leaving. So I guess it was kind of a gamble, but not one that worked out for them.

Yeahhh, but I guess I don't really feel like we ever see JE, EOT etc reflected in Eleven. They keep saying s6 will be much darker and maybe it will be, but Eleven in s5 is generally a pretty chipper dude. But yeah I do think it is also partially casting confusion lol.