[ SECRET POST #1583 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1583 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 83 secrets from Secret Submission Post #226.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's kind of homophobic. No wait, that's a lot homophobic.

What a goddamn cow.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh not at all! She's very gay friendly! Loves gay characters.

JUST DON'T MAKE STRAIGHT(or undeclared)CHARACTERS GAY(pan, bi, so on) ZOMGAWD!

[(Anonymous)]

I think my statement still stands.

=/

[(Anonymous)]

O.o oh no not another of those.

[(Anonymous)]

I love femmeslash, but MAYBE I can see why she banned it. You have to keep in mind that these are Disney characters. A lot of people are squicked out by seeing really cartoony characters in sexual situations because of the innocence factor, especially those from something like Disney Fairies.

And also, maybe she was afraid Disney might come after her legally? It happens rarely nowadays, but it still does. She might not want her comm to be the target of one of those parental watchdog groups.

Sure, I might be wrong about these things and she just might not like slash, but eh. I still find the reasoning above to be valid enough to ban fic of that nature.

[(Anonymous)]

This is all one big bullshit excuse. Damn near every time people use "innocent" to block queer expression, what they mean is "ew yucky gross."

And before the idea that children don't understand gayness, I knew I was queer as a child.

Fuck homophobic bullshit, and fuck people who make excuses for it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not about children not understanding gayness. Although I'm sure you can agree that they shouldn't be exposed to explicit sexual content even if they find themselves knowing they're gay.

Even if the owner enjoys slash, the problem is with the others who hate it and then the community becomes a target for them. It's sad and disgusting, but that's how society is, unfortunately.

And when people rebel against this, they end up getting stomped on. I still remember the infamous strikethrough of 2007 and how several adult oriented communities for children related media got deleted due to the 'pedo police'.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough, but with this mod, that was not where she was coming from. The possibility of legal issues was never mentioned, though it should have been, as it would have been a handy neutral card to play that would have brought the argument down several notches.

I think there is a bit of explicit stuff for the fairies out there, but pretty much all the female-made femmeslash has been fluffy and tame to the point of not being blatantly romantic.

[(Anonymous)]

(continued)

Also, not the last anon you responded to.

[(Anonymous)]

Although I'm sure you can agree that they shouldn't be exposed to explicit sexual content even if they find themselves knowing they're gay.

Children should not be on livejournal.

It's sad and disgusting, but that's how society is, unfortunately.

Some of us try to change this shit by fighting back instead of writing our hands and whinging about shit just being that way.

Oh yay, this line.

[(Anonymous)]

This is classical homophobic bullshit. Unless people were actually posting explicit sex, but that's another matter entirely.

Straight people tend to think that just mentioning romance or a romantic relationship with a person of the same sex is "telling people about your sex life." It isn't, anymore than mentioning you're married to someone of the opposite sex is "telling people about your sex life".

Ugh.

[mekosuchinae.livejournal.com]

Because, you know, queerness is automatically sexually explicit.

[rhapsodyinpink.livejournal.com]

Or maaaaaaaaaaaybe it's because they're asexual creatures who, in canon, don't engage in anything other than platonic relationships? These are creatures who only survive because children believe in them. And adults can't see them at all. They represent innocence. To ship them at all is creepy, whether said pairings are straight or slash.

[(Anonymous)]

Homophobic cow.

[(Anonymous)]

But shipping automatically means the freakiest of smut! THINK OF THE POOR INNOCENT FICTIONAL CHARACTERS! Never mind the hetero romance in canon, that's totally fine of course.

[rhapsodyinpink.livejournal.com]

What hetero romance? There is no hetero romance. Can you read? Unless you're referring to Terrence manipulating Tink into liking him via a magic wand in the second book or Tink's momentary infatuation with Peter? Because neither of those were portrayed positively either, if you will recall.

[(Anonymous)]

i know, what is this shit. gay people are automatically too wretched for fairies? fuck that.

really, it's looking like:

boy kiss girl on cheek: daw.....

girl kiss girl on cheek: OH GODS IT'S THE GAY won't someone think of the children on eljay~

[rhapsodyinpink.livejournal.com]

Pervy anonymous coward. :)

[(Anonymous)]

It's amazing how you run to tanz's defense everytime someone says something about her. Do you have a life outside the computer? XD

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, people who oppose homophobia are such perverts. Holy shit is this conversation depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

^ They advertise themselves well.

[hazel61.livejournal.com]

... hold up, though. Isn't "Disney Fairies" built around the character of Tinkerbell? A character known for her blatant sexuality? Who was so jealous of Peter Pan's affection toward Wendy that she repeatedly tried to kill her? A character drawn like a pin-up girl who displays extremes of vanity, jealousy, rage and desire? Basically, the human id in pixie form?

I mean, one could make an argument that she's among the LEAST innocent of Disney characters!

[(Anonymous)]

But that's het. Het is okay. It's only icky if it's gay. Gay is EVIL OMG WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREENNNNNNNNN WE MUST NEVER EXPOSE THEM TO THE GAY.

And this is not homophobic at all, because Tanz said so. Tanz is a nice person and CANNOT be homophobic regardless what Tanz does.

[(Anonymous)]

And quite frankly, minus the homophobia, it'd only be more wacky. She claims that she's okay with femmeslashing characters that are teens. The fairies are adults as far as I can see. As stated, Tink has a fully developed figure. She ain't innocent. Fearing Disney would make some sort of sense, but they never claim that's their reason.

I think this is an example of someone not wanting that which they over identify with touched by others with differing fandom ideas. Femmeslashing those people over there is fine, but don't touch my precious!

[(Anonymous)]

I highly, highly doubt the creators actually came out stated that they're asexual. That's not a very Disney statement to make.

Also lol @ the idea of Tink being innocent.