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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-09 07:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1588 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1588 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-05-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Like Twilight Sparkle was insane for trying to understand what was happening, like she was dumb for objecting to a new magic mechanic that didn't exist before and hasn't existed since... seriously rubbed me the wrong way, as a rationalist atheist skeptic. She wasn't 'not trusting her friend;' she was trying to understand the world.

I've found Pinkie gets a lot of leeway in the show in a way the other characters don't. Each of them has an episode where their approach to life fails-- Twilight had OP's cited episode, Rarity had her Icarus moment, Applejack had her 'stubborn Applejack is stubborn' episode, Fluttershy was taken advantage of by Philemina, Rainbow Dash is constantly failing due to excessive aggression-- but never Pinkie. I had hoped that 'Party of One' was going to be this (sometimes people don't fucking WANT to party! Sometimes they want to spend their time productively!) but no, it was ultimately a validation of Pinkie's worldview that everything need balloons. Even the Best Night Ever won Pinkie (and everyone else, but Pinkie most directly from what I saw) kudos from the authority figure for disrupting everyone's evening out.

So I have some significant issues with the show and that episode kind of distills them for me, yes.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-10 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the show isn't over yet. Maybe there will be more morals for Pinkie in season 2.
Oh and as a non-atheist I agree with you ;)

[identity profile] alliterations.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
While our interpretations of that episode may be different, I have to say, I hadn't thought about Pinkie Pie getting so much leeway, so to speak. And I agree with you, now that I think about it, because you're right. I can't think of an episode where it was shown how Pinkie Pie's attitude, when taken too far, can be detrimental. I mean, The Best Night ever might have been an example, but everyone else had a shitty night too, so that doesn't quite count.

Thanks for bringing up a point I totally hadn't considered until now.

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more that the Pinkie Pie episodes show us moments where she "wins." Not that she's always losing, but that because of her attitude, she usually isn't taken seriously by her friends (even if they do love her). That's actually a really hard position to live in.

[identity profile] iambic5.livejournal.com 2011-05-10 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
That's actually a really hard position to live in.

Good lord, this. And I think 'Party of One' showed us a bit of how it's difficult (and that it isn't actually healthy to define yourself by your relationships with other people, but I might be projecting a bit there).