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⌈ Secret Post #1592 ⌋

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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]

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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]

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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]

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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]

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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Kuroshitsuji II]

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1. Kurt wasn't going to tell anyone even before the death threat. Also he had a chance to tell people why after the threat in Furt but he still didn't tell them. Why? He was around lots of people to protect him. Maybe because he doesn't like outting people. Yes it's stupid and if I was in his position I would of told but Kurt didn't.

2. It was implied that this apology wasn't going to happen in that scene. It was Kurt talking to him that made Karofsky cry. Kurt telling him that he see his pain caused it. I'm pretty sure that Karofsky didn't plan that apology at all.

1. Even IF that wasn't reason Karofksy still, at the very least, tried to force Kurt into silence with fucking deaththreats. And I'm still not coninced that's not why Kurt didn't tell. I don't believe that Kurt would sacrifice THAT much to keep Karofsky's secret if he wasn't also scared that the threat would be realized.

2. So?

And yes I know it's fucking stupid what Karofsky did. Also it was fucking stupid that Kurt didn't tell anybody about the threat. I would chalk it up to them being stupid teens not knowing what to do in these situations.

So, you're implying that Karofsky planned that whole apology, even though Kurt unintentionally instigated it. Plus you should know that Karofsky is struggling with his sexuality plus fully regretting all the shit he did to Kurt. Karofsky cracking under the pressure was bound to happen eventually.

Exept Kurt wasn't "stupid" for not telling someone about a sexual assault and abuse. Victims aren't stupid for not wanting to face the stigma and a death threat. So sick of people laying the blame on Kurt for not telling. How about laying the blame on Karofksy for assaulting and threatening him? Which also wasn't just a stupid teenage thing, it was cold, planned and systematic abuse. Karofksy didn't just stop with the "kiss" he continued the sexual harrasment afterwards in a completely controlled and calmheaded manner.

I also fucking hate when people say things like "Krofsky was stupid, but Kurt was stupid too". It's like hearing rape apologists saying "Yeah, raping her was stupid, but she was stupid for wearing slutty clothes~". Just no. It doesn't work that way.

Lol, my comment "So?" implied all that for you? It simply meant; "I do not care if he planned it, it was still coercive".

Ooookay before I continue, I just like to point out that I'm sticking strictly on the canon of the show in this debate. So I usually avoid the "was the kiss sexual assault or not" topics like the plague since they go nowhere and start so much hate and wank. With that in mind, no I'm not victim blaming at all. I'm not a rape apologist either.

Anyway....

Kurt: "I could just hate you when you were bullying me but...Now? All I see is your pain."

And after Karofsky apologized

Kurt: "I know...I know"

You say Karofsky was coercive with his apology but what Kurt said before it implies that Kurt already forgave him even without a proper apology. for Karofsky.

You know what, I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. For me I read that very differently. Like, that was how I felt when my abuser lost his son. All I could think was that he looked so miserable and broken and I didn't feel angry at him anymore and I couldn't see him as a monster at that moment. But... I never forgave him for what he did to me. And that's kind of how I see it. And maybe people with different experiences put different things into that scene. But for me all I could think is that if he had apologized for the abuse after the funeral while crying I would feel terribly obligated to say it's okay and would find that really coercive and difficult to back out of. I think Karofksy should have waited. And he should have done it when they were alone and when he had actually taken some kind of effort to change himself. Like I said, we should probably just agree to disagree.

Yeah it looks like we have to go that route.

After reading this thread I can def. see your perspective, even if I didn't see the scene in the same light. I'm sorry for everything you've been through, though. =C

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