[ SECRET POST #1670 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1670 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Going to be short posts this week, LJ being down half the week means less secrets total, sorry about that.

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 204 secrets from Secret Submission Post #239.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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Comments

[antiva.livejournal.com]

The thing with River is that I think I like her as a character (every time she flirts with the Doctor and is generally awesome and sort of sneaky and badass) but Moffat just doesn't let her be herself much, but merely a plot device...? We keep being told that she's awesome (lol Daleks fear her, that was a tad over the top there Moffat) and mysterious and SPOILERS and then we find out that she's and she's trapped into some sort of doomed/fated/manipulated through backwards time in quite a creepy way(???) to be the Doctor's lover/one of his great loves and... it just drowns her character, idk. Moffat is way too up her ass as a fascinating plot device/badass Mary Sue that we don't really see much of River herself, in my opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

I want to frame this comment.

[(Anonymous)]

This. If he had simply let her be a future love interest who's meeting him out of order, that would have been plenty. But Moffat decided it was more important to layer on plot contrivances than characterization and she went from somebody I thought was interesting to somebody who makes me roll my eyes.

[antiva.livejournal.com]

I agree! The first option would be cool, and would've been innovative enough. But the fact that he made River's story so needlessly complicated and timey wimey and then also had to make her the focus point of the entire season just makes the current season seem like a shrine to Moffat's own ego, imo. xD;

[(Anonymous)]

Problem is, Moffatt treats every character as a plot device. He can tell a good story (though the verdict is reserved on S6 until the finale), but he is more than willing to warp his (and others') characters to fit his -oh-so-cleverly-designed plot. It makes a pretty jigsaw, but the story can end up lacking heart.

Amy's suffering the same fate, and Rory as well, though to a lesser extent. The episodes where Amy's felt most real to me were actually Vincent and the Doctor and, strangely enough, The Doctor's Wife, even though she had a very supporting role there.

It might be interesting if we could get a River episode written by a (good) writer other than Moffatt.

[antiva.livejournal.com]

I'm honestly not too fussed about S6 so far, but I guess we'll see what the second half brings. I did like S5's plot so I'm willing to hope, but honestly since I don't really care about River to begin with it seems like S6 is just doomed not to click much with me.

I do agree with you though, I don't really feel as connected emotionally with the companions as I did in RTD's era and I think you've put the finger on my problem with it. It just feels like they're pawns at times to explain the plot and give reactions to its cleverness.