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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-31 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1671 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1671 ⌋


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[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And this would be why people make fun of and generally hate New Yorkers and tourists.

And I am really hoping is fake.

[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I am hoping it's fake too. Unfortunately I can imagine it happening, easily... but not so much someone making it into a Fandom Secret.

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just so stereotypical. I thought New York had changed.

Although I'd understand if tourists hadn't.

Of course in that same vein, tourists have always delighted in making up fake, slanderous stories about the places they visit for attention or to say, "Yeah, it really is as bad as everyone says it is."

Which is a sort of attitude not even remotely new for...

the entire history of man.

[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I once saw a woman being chased down the street by two men, and a group of people standing on the sidewalk staring, no one moving for the payphone behind them. (This was before cell phones were common.) So my ex and I pulled over to use the payphone, and meanwhile she ran into an office, and we could see through the glass she was on the phone herself, and the men went away. But the people on the sidewalk just... stood there.

This was in Los Angeles, actually.

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole thing read as incredibly fake to me. I mean, what were any of you doing that kept you stationary, outside on a "mostly deserted" street for "more than two and a half hours" besides watching this fighting couple? Quiet sidewalk cafe in hell's kitchen, I guess? Are you sure this wasn't some kind of performance art?

Even if it's not fake, OP, interrupting a fighting couple to tell them what you (a stranger) think of their relationship is almost never a good idea, and calling the police to report someone yelling at someone else isn't going to do much good either. Even if the man admitted to abusing his gf, there's not a lot you can do for a battered woman who doesn't want to leave except offer support and resources (neither of which you, as a complete stranger could do anyway).

[identity profile] fiducia.livejournal.com 2011-08-01 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
This. All of this. You said what I wanted to say only you said it better. *applause*

(Anonymous) 2011-08-01 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
This.

I live in a fairly shitty neighborhood so we often get couples fighting and screaming obscenities at each other (some last for far longer than 2 hours too), but I would never intervene because I know those people are potentially dangerous. I'm even wary of calling the police, because not only is no crime being committed (the police rarely come out here for petty reasons), there's also the possibility of the neighbors finding out who called the police on them. A man who lives up the road from me got shot because he had called the police and they traced his call, and ended up telling the offender who called them. Fucking idiots.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-01 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
This. You have to choose your battles. If the woman was getting physically beat on in public or calling for help, then that's a different situation. Being yelled at though? It's horrible, but not a crime. Police can only take action if someone is being physically assaulted. Even then it's more likely they'll stay a few days in jail and then be let out again and be pissed. Yay, for the justice system... All that aside, there are people who would help, but they only intervene when someone asks for it.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-01 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I once passed by a fighting couple where the woman was physically and verbally abusing the man she was with (in front of a toddler that must have been their son), but calling the police or intervening wouldn't have done a lick of good because she was hostile and he certainly would have denied anything being wrong except for the fact that their argument was getting a little heated, but nothing that was worth calling the police over. Hell, he probably would have become hostile himself had I done something. And that is assuming, of course, that they stuck around long enough for the authorities to get there, which was unlikely at best, considering I had no idea who the hell these people were and we were passing one another under a bridge.

[identity profile] masked-creator.livejournal.com 2011-07-31 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Ugh.
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[identity profile] subarashiine.livejournal.com 2011-08-01 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I hope it's fake, but I promise you that this scene could happen in any city, in any country. It's not just NYC :/

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-08-01 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I'm sure, it's just a very popular stereotype of NYC...

since the 1920s.
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[identity profile] subarashiine.livejournal.com 2011-08-01 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
As a native New Yorker and Manhattanite, and someone who loathes the stereotype of us, I seriously hate that the OP had to mention New York.