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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-04 08:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #1675 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1675 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[British politics RPS]


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[FF13]


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[To The Ends Of The Earth]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 031 secrets from Secret Submission Post #239.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
popkin16: (☆ here for a moment & then i was gone)

[personal profile] popkin16 2011-08-05 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I like fanon!Teyla more than I ever liked canon!Teyla. I agree with you, she seemed condescending, and I thought the writers didn't give her enough flaws *shrug*

(Anonymous) 2011-08-05 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think that most of the main cast didn't have any flaws. The only flawed person was McKay really. Otherwise everyone was written as perfect and they were never called out on their mistakes.

That's why I like the fanon versions more.
veracity: (SGA - Teyla)

[personal profile] veracity 2011-08-05 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
...McKay was the only flawed character? Seriously? He who pretty much dominated everything because he was the production staff's wish-fulfillment? McKay was catered to and babied throughout the whole show. He was always the character that got what he wanted, except in Trinity.

I'd say Elizabeth was the most flawed since the military did nothing but undermine her authority, just cause, and leave her to clean it up.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-05 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
McKay was also incredibly bad with social interactions, over-confident, hypochondriac, arrogant as all get out

So yes. McKay had some incredible flaws as a character, that particularly stood out when compared to the other characters [who also had flaws, just more subtle ones] - he also had some amazing strengths
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[personal profile] veracity 2011-08-05 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
His overconfidence got the team in a lot of trouble, like Sheppard. It's a definite flaw in both. Yes, it saved them, but it also put them in danger. Not to mention the constant whining and wheedling.

His stood out the most because he was the main focus for a large portion of the episodes, especially as time went on.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-05 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess you don't really understand what flaws mean then, lol.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-07 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Then...Why were you ripping on McKay? I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-05 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
McKay was also the only character who was properly called out on his mistake, he's an asshole, really bad with people, he's condescending, sexist, whiner and a jerk. He was a main character (along with Sheppard), that's why there was so much focus on him. Sheppard and McKay pretty much had split the focus mostly 50/50.

He really wasn't catered and babied throughout the whole show. I know people who don't like him tend to forget this, but he was constantly the butt of the jokes. Constantly. Something bad kept on happening all the time and with the exception of few things (like second childhood, or the ascension machine but that only at the end) all of them were played out for laughs. So...yeah. I don't know where you see the babying.

OH. The relationship with Keller I guess. I didn't like that part much myself, because it turned McKay into not entertaining character and I guess the producers had a thing for Jewel in leather, but that's all I can think of.

But if you seriously think that Elizabeth (of all people...she really didn't have many prominent flaws - that someone undermines her authority is not her flaw because it's external force not internal) is portrayed as more flawed than McKay...yeah. Even Sheppard has more flaws than her and that's saying something. I don't know. I think you have hater goggles on too tightly.

I'd like to know how many times did McKay's overconfidencet's get them in trouble (other than himself alone - like with the ascension machine)? Except Doranda...do you know? I'm not being condescending or angry right know, I just don't remember. Because he mostly delivered on what he said.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2011-08-08 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Except, originally all of the team were supposed to be main characters. Teyla and Ford originally, and then Ronan were all main characters, as was Elizabeth. It was only as the series wore on that it became the John and Rodney show.
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[personal profile] veracity 2011-08-05 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Condescending to the people managed to wake up the worst enemy possible, had her people killed and/or eaten because she had the audacity to help the newbs within a day, and then was systematically ignored or treated as the enemy when trying to explain the galaxy's delicate balance now that the entire race of beings that thought humans were the best nutrition source ever?

Yeah...I can see that. Except not at all.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-05 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you so defensive over this? Btw, I suspect this exact type of behavior is why the OP feels they can't say 'I don't like Teyla' anywhere but a secret.
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[personal profile] veracity 2011-08-05 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Because she was called condescending without any sort of support. Added to it, the girls are typically not loved within the fandom in favor of the boys.
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[personal profile] popkin16 2011-08-05 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. You feel very strongly about this, don't you? Forgive me for expressing my opinion. I mistakenly thought his was a public place where we could say how we feel.

Also? Her people were being fed on long before people from Earth showed up. The wraith were woke trying to save her and her people. Next time, Sheppard and people from Earth should let everyone just die. Oh wait, then you'd be jumping down everyone's throat on how cruel they are.