[ SECRET POST #1676 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1676 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Toriko]


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03.
[Bubble Sisters, After School, Beast and T-ARA]


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05.
[Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters]


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06.
[Frezned/YouTube]


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08.
[Orc Stain]


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10.
[Tiger & Bunny]


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14.
[My Fair Lady]


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16.
(Strawberry Shortcake's Berry Bitty Adventures)


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18.
[Glee]


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19. [tb]


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20. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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21. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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22. [SPOILERS for Voyager]



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23. [SPOILERS for Agents of Cracked]



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24. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons/A Song of Ice and Fire]



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25. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons]



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26. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons]



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27. [TRIGGER WARNING for self injury]



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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con and pedophilia]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #239.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[granular.livejournal.com]

I think you meant she there.

[(Anonymous)]

I think, for the ten thousandth time, that it is not established for anime canon that anon above does or should mean she. If and when it is, most of us will happily fall into line, but until then? Wanting Grell to ID as trans and having it be canon that Grell IDs as trans are not the same thing.

[granular.livejournal.com]

Yana Toboso, the mangaka, has said that Grell is actually transgender.

[(Anonymous)]

No. Yana Toboso, the mangaka, has called Grell "okama" which can also mean "campy drag queen" - this may have been poorly translated - if someone perceives Grell to be male they are not incorrect. Everyone has their own interpretation. Not that big of a deal.

[peachxcandy.livejournal.com]

+1

[tazthelemon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, because the 'I want a sex change' and 'I think God made a mistake' from the character guide was so totally ambiguous.

[acidicdemonmilk.livejournal.com]

This.

Now can we all just stop purposefully misgendering people, whether they be fictional or not?

[(Anonymous)]

1. Details? Some people consider author interview material canon in general; others don't. See also, endless arguments about whether what JKR says outside the books counts as HP canon. This isn't some special kind of argument that only comes up in the context of identity issues.

2. You might want to note that manga canon and anime canon diverge substantially from one another. Toboso has noted that someone else is writing, or at least contributing heavily to, anime canon and the anime storylines.

3. Anime canon. Where Grell presents as a man before becoming a shinigami in the recent OVA, apparently by choice.

4. Yes, I see and note your angry-face icon. Sorry about that. I like Grell as a woman, but I remain less sure that the canon requires everyone to agree than you seem to be.

[(Anonymous)]

oh, this again? Can't wait to read this thread.

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[tazthelemon.livejournal.com]

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people aren't aware of this. Even if it is canon, which is debatable, a lot of people just haven't seen the interviews/character guide where this is said. Not everyone who calls Grell "he" is deliberately misgendering Grell. If you've only seen the anime, it's perfectly reasonable to think that Grell is a man.

Not that it shouldn't be discussed, mind you, but people really need to stop saying that everyone who thinks Grell is a man is transphobic.

[(Anonymous)]

That, and it's ok to refer to transgendered as the sex they were born with. Seriously, we won't bite your head off.

[snowtroublehere.livejournal.com]

jesus christ on every kuroshitsuji secret there is grell transwank

[tazthelemon.livejournal.com]

At the heat death of the universe, the stray protons that once made up Kuroshitsuji fandom will still be arguing over Grell's pronouns.

[snowtroublehere.livejournal.com]

"i don't like ciel"
"GRELL IS A FEMALE STOP MISGENDERING HER YOU TRANSPHOBIC ASSHOLE"
"what how is that relevant"
"CIEL HAS THE SAME NUMBER OF LETTERS AS MALE"