[ SECRET POST #1687 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1687 ⌋


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Notes:

This is not your forum to identify and call out specific people just to call them assholes. Call out general actions you find reprehensible, mod ability/inability, that kind of stuff, but once you get into what basically amounts to 'this person is a stupid bitch and here are some icons/an lj layout/add. info to identify them with' - no.

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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

09. http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6043/secret51.jpg

[hosekisama.livejournal.com]

Tris would be the best girlfriend. Is what I have to say to that.

[cold-river-blue.livejournal.com]

For the love of all that is holy, if you're going to use a tiny font in a pale color to write over a busy picture, at least avoid writing over other actual text. That is all.

[jewelia13.livejournal.com]

For some odd reason, I always thought Sandry would turn out to be gay (then again, it might have been because I prefer Tris/Niko and Tris/Crane).

[ladyyuna07.livejournal.com]

I always shipped Sandry/Briar. And then that whole "EWWWWWWWWW WE'RE LIKE BROTHER AND SISTER" thing became canon and all my dreams were shattered... (I have an Aladdin complex >>)

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

I so love the idea of Tris/Niko or Tris/Crane! (admittedly, I was more into the idea of Rosethorn/Crane, til TP made her and Lark lesbians, which I didn't see coming) Any fic out there for either?

Tbh, Tris is one of my top fave characters from books, I'd read any well-written fic about her.

[(Anonymous)]

Heh, I was hoping Sandry would turn out to be gay. I was so excited that one of them did end up gay, but the fact it was the most butch girl didn't sit quite right with me.

[stepstostars.livejournal.com]

<3 I loved Tris as a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

I keep getting mixed signals about Tamora Pierce books! I want to read them, but some people tell me that they're full of fail when it comes to LGBT* and race stuff, and others tell me they handle those issues really well and have lots of non-white/cis/straight characters. WHICH IS IT, TAMORA PIERCE READING PEOPLE, YOU CONFUSE ME SO MUCH

[ladyyuna07.livejournal.com]

Try reading them and find out for yourself. (I think they do an okay job at it, especially when put in TP's pseudo-advanced historical context, but I am also a white, straight female, ergo my interpretations are not the most accurate in terms of political correctness)

[ldkirby.livejournal.com]

Well, I would say just read them and decide for yourself what you think? It's only really some of her later books that even address LGBT issues at all (the only two I can think of are Will of the Empress and Bloodhound) and personally I never found anything wrong with the depictions. If anything, it does a good job of introducing the idea of it to younger kids (my eleven year old self was SO CONFUSED about Daja and Rizu for a little while in Will of the Empress. Even though upon rereading it was pretty obvious Daja was crushing on her.)

As for the race issues, the Trickster series is a bit sketchy in that area.

[ivymutant.livejournal.com]

It's mentioned vaaaaaguely in the Protector of the Small books (I think it's those ones) where her maid is a lesbian with the dressmaker friend lady, but it's only hinted at.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say give 'em a shot and decide for yourself. She's got a pretty enjoyable writing style, and her storylines are pretty good. I would be careful, though, because in my experience, she tends to fall short a bit in her sequels (the first two or three books in her series tend to be pretty good, but any after that tend to be pretty dull or just plain bizarre).

[elialshadowpine]

I'm gonna say, read them and see what you think. No single group is a monolith; there are ALWAYS going to be disagreements about whether something is well-done, even if it actually is a legitimate portrayal.

(For example, when Cameron's Avatar came out, there was a large disagreement within the disability community. Some of us felt that the representation of Jake as being not yet adjusted to his disability was realistic and we sympathised because this is how we felt, but other people disliked it because he didn't accept his disabilities and wanted to be abled again. Both views are valid. That said, there are plenty of other problematic elements to that movie, but that particular issue got a lot of disagreement.)

I personally didn't have an issue with her portrayal of gay characters, but admittedly, a lot of what I remember is subtext (I haven't read Will of the Empress or the Beka Cooper books... waiting for the last Beka Cooper book to come out in a couple months so I can read them all together). Tammy has been pretty up-front about how happy she is that YA is more open now because she can write about issues more openly, rather than having to sneak it in.

Give 'em a try. Your library should have them. They're popular enough. :)

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

What annoyed me about Will of the Empress was how the kids were so dumbed down and there was a ton of manufactured conflict that was just unnecessary. But it had a good message in terms of sexuality, like, everyone's equal, let's all accept each other, it's all good, and so on. My issue with it was similar to with Half-Blood Prince- the teen hormones on overdrive and general idiocy. But the general message is pretty good, just yeah, I wish she hadn't ruined the characters for me, but it's a very YMMV situation.

[copper-dimes.livejournal.com]

Wow, this was hard to read. That said, you've reminded me of yet another series I've yet to read. I've been a Tamora Pierce fan for a long time, but I just never got around to this set of books for some reason or another.

[elialshadowpine]

They're very different from her Tortall books. They're geared toward a slightly younger audience, and I didn't care for them as much, but they're definitely worth reading.

[copper-dimes.livejournal.com]

I'll give them a read once I get the chance (ha, I have so much to read outside of class: the last Harry Potter books, the Game of Thrones series, random books I find while I'm at work, etc.). My mom adores this series, so it shouldn't be hard to get my hands on the books; I just have to make the time to read them.

How are they geared toward a younger audience, if you don't mind my asking? Is it in terms of the themes laced throughout the books? Or is perhaps the writing simpler?

[elialshadowpine]

The writing is a bit more simplistic and the plot IMO a bit less complicated. There's also things that they don't deal with that were in the Tortall books. Sex was pretty much left alone, as I recall (it may have been touched on in Will of the Empress, which I haven't read, but it wasn't in the original two quartets). Also, the age of the characters remained younger, whereas the Tortall books followed characters from young adulthood through adulthood. The Circle books stayed in the "tween" range, as I recall.