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fandomsecrets2011-08-19 08:21 pm
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[ SECRET POST #1690 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1690 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[The Birdcage]
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03. [repeat]
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[Swan Princess]
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[Yugioh]
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[d.gray-man/katekyo hitman reborn]
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07. [ns]
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[Natsume Yuujinchou]
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[deus ex]
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[Beelzebub]
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[Leverage]
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[Jon Richardson]
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[Suburban Knights / TGWTG]
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[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]
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25. [posted twice]
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[MST3K -- Pumaman]
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[Switched at Birth]
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[Risen: Dark Waters]
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(Family Ties, Out of Practice, Everwood)
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[David Mitchell and Lee Mack]
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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
32. [SPOILERS for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]
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33. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]
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34. [SPOILERS for AtLA]
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35. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]
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36. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Planet of the Apes]
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37. [SPOILERS for Fringe]
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38. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]
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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
39. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]
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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]
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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[Rihanna]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #241.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 12:48 am (UTC)(link)As much as I love Lenalee, I can see why she would be disliked for reasons other than "ruining the yaoi ship". She had troubling flaws, cries a lot, etc. I'm sure you have valid reasons.
But most of the fans I've interacted with who've disliked Lenalee, they all hate her for ruining the gay love. Maybe its a vocal minority, but its such a strong voice that the Lenalee fans get just as defensive. I wish the DGM fandom wasn't so divided in this way, it makes it hard for us to even discuss her without there being a fight.
I respect your decision to hate her, but I hope you can remain tolerant to those who like her too. We're all reading the same manga together, right?
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(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:18 am (UTC)(link)She had troubling flaws, cries a lot, etc.
I agree that she does have flaws and cry quite a bit, and that there are valid reasons out there which a person can have for disliking her.
To go off on a tangent here, often I find that people focus on the crying in a troubling way, though, which doesn't take account of why she's crying and pastes on reasons which indicate a lack of thought on their part. (Such as..."she's crying to get sympathy from the guys! And that's why I hate her." or something like that, which is ridiculous) and it's also particularly annoying when someone claims they hate her just because she cries a lot, but they're a person who also adores Allen, who cries about the same amount in the manga as she does.
Someone counted the number of times a while ago and put it in a fandom secret, and Allen and Lenalee were tied in first place for the amount of times they had cried during the series. I saw someone get called out on that double standard once, and they said something to the effect of "Uh, when Lenalee cries it's because she's a whiny bitch who only wants attention, whereas when Allen cries, it's because of the pure manly feelings of love and sadness in his heart." Yeeaaahh.
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(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:26 am (UTC)(link)I love Lenalee and Allen both because they aren't afraid to bare their feelings.
But I guess since the OP never mentioned their preference with other male characters, I jumped the gun and assumed it was crying related, thinking that he/she might dislike Allen too, for the same reasons.
Also that secret was totally rad, I wish I could find it. Thanks for raising that point, it shows you how deep the double standards go. (even I was doing it! And I love the girl!)
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(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)I don't agree with the AYRT, but it's possible to argue that he has some sociopathic or sociopathic-like traits, or that he did at one point. In one of the side stories in the novels, he's described as someone who (when he arrived at the order) was emotionally removed from people, didn't really see them as people either, and had a lot of suppressed hatred and bitterness. And that fits in with the Lavi that Road used in her mental dream world to fight against him, the one who only sees people as ink on paper. Now, that Lavi, the one he isn't any more and which may no longer be his ideal self, could be argued as sociopathic.