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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-19 08:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #1690 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Birdcage]


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03. [repeat]


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04.
[Swan Princess]


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05.
[Yugioh]


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[d.gray-man/katekyo hitman reborn]


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07. [ns]


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09.
[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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10.
[deus ex]


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15.
[Beelzebub]


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[Leverage]


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22.
[Jon Richardson]


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23.
[Suburban Knights / TGWTG]


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24.
[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]


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25. [posted twice]


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26.
[MST3K -- Pumaman]


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27.
[Switched at Birth]


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28.
[Risen: Dark Waters]


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29.
(Family Ties, Out of Practice, Everwood)


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30.
[David Mitchell and Lee Mack]


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32. [SPOILERS for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]



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33. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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34. [SPOILERS for AtLA]



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35. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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36. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Planet of the Apes]



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37. [SPOILERS for Fringe]



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38. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]



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39. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]



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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Rihanna]


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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I never hated Shinji. I liked him, actually and kinda had a crush on him when I was about his age. I was a little surprised by the hate in the fandom for him and Asuka when I first joined, actually.
Still, I don't know that everybody who hates the character would hate you, though. Fictional characters - at least those like Shinji, teenage pilots in the big robot anime genre - are there as an escape. Even though it's often preferable in, say, high literature for characters to be as close to real as possible, not everybody is happy with that in escapist fantasies like big robot sci-fi. In reality, it's totally understandable for a kid to react to abuse by shutting down, and nobody should blame them for it or call them weak. That would be a fucking terrible thing to do. But when you're watching it on the screen and all the characters are fictional, it can be disappointing not to see the kid stand up for themselves, because that's what you the audience member want them to do. And the insertion fantasy in Evangelion is not the child abuse and depression for most viewers, it's the piloting, and you're wondering why Shinji will throw that away when you would (possibly literally) give your left arm to do it.

Sorry for the tl;dr but all I mean is, if it helps OP, it's not necessarily about hating Shinji as a person but hating his failure to be the escapist fantasy character somebody wanted.

[identity profile] kayfig.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think this explanation makes a lot of sense actually. I personally like Shinji, but it is hard to watch someone shut down. And when it's the main character of a show it makes sense that a lot of people would be irritated by the show's insistence on drawing people's attention back the realities of war and its effect on the heroes of said war. Especially when those heroes are kids.

It's funny though- Evangelion hasn't ever really been strictly a mecha show, it just happens to use mecha as part of the story. If that makes sense. Basically, I don't think Anno ever intended it to be just another big robot show where the focus was the piloting; it always struck me that he was focusing more on the characters and how they responded to being thrust in that position.