[ SECRET POST #1690 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Birdcage]


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03. [repeat]


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[Swan Princess]


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[Yugioh]


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[d.gray-man/katekyo hitman reborn]


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[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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[deus ex]


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15.
[Beelzebub]


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[Leverage]


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[Jon Richardson]


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[Suburban Knights / TGWTG]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]


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25. [posted twice]


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26.
[MST3K -- Pumaman]


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27.
[Switched at Birth]


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28.
[Risen: Dark Waters]


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(Family Ties, Out of Practice, Everwood)


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30.
[David Mitchell and Lee Mack]


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32. [SPOILERS for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]



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33. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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34. [SPOILERS for AtLA]



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35. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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36. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Planet of the Apes]



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37. [SPOILERS for Fringe]



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38. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]



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39. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]



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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Rihanna]


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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

39.
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[royaleconqueso.livejournal.com]

and yes, Eva fandom sucks

[dontgiveahoot.livejournal.com]

Yes, THIS. Especially since Shinji and Vincent didn't just 'get over it'. I always get rageyface when everyone insists that Shinji should have. Depression is an illness. It doesn't 'just go away', and you can't just 'snap yourself out of it'.

It's also interesting to note that the reason both Vincent and Shinji were so accurate was because both characters lived in a world that either didn't understand the nature of their illness, or didn't care. They weren't getting the support they needed.

[(Anonymous)]

I gotta admit, I wouldn't have wanted anything to do with you either.

[dontgiveahoot.livejournal.com]

Well, yes. This is true. Depression, or any mental illness, is just that, an illness. Sufferers needs treatment, understanding and support, but it can be hard being that support. After a while, some friends can't take it any more (especially if they have been brought up with the 'snap yourself out of it' mindset) and just... drift away. Not saying that it's good or right, but to be fair, some people with MI can be quite difficult to deal with. You can feel sympathy for their illness and what they must go through without necessarily wanting to (or even being able to) spend all your own emotional spoons trying to keep them afloat.

[royaleconqueso.livejournal.com]

I love Shinji, yes he is a pussy but I still like him, one of my favorite protagonists :D

[(Anonymous)]

I loved Shinji and found his actions and reactions completely understandable. I never got why he was so disliked. *watched Eva in the nineties, haven't seen rebuild*

[antler-action.livejournal.com]

Shinji is one of the most emotionally evocative depictions of a person with depression I've ever seen. I've read criticism of Anno for inserting his own struggles into Evangelion, but I'll always be grateful that he did, because watching Shinji really got it home to me that there was someone else "like me" out there. (That I was (Not) Alone, you might say.)

Honestly I find that understanding him (not necessarily liking him, but being able to acknowledge his feelings) is a pretty good litmus test for people's empathy in general. I'm sorry your friends were dicks about it, and I hope you find (or have found) some more understanding people to have in your life.

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that a lot of people that dislike Shinji do so because he hits too close to home. Most people would not be badasses in that situation, and while it's fun to watch an anime like that, it's not as realistic as NGE. I personally really loved him because of how relatable he was, since I have depression as well and it was somehow cathartic to watch Shinji.

[feanorian.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that a lot of people that dislike Shinji do so because he hits too close to home.
This. I related much more to Asuka (see: confidence issues, abusive family i've only recently been able to admit are abusive, other people trying to pull me into their illness-headspace) and her breakdown at the end is just... guh. It's like watching myself fail everything & fall apart... now that I know what's coming I have to seriously psych myself up to watch the last few episodes.

[countess-k.livejournal.com]

Could someone please summarize this secret for me? I tried reading it, I swear, but the Teal Deer attacks me every time. I'm nearly blind.

[night-owl-9.livejournal.com]

I've always had a soft spot for Shinji. At times it was very difficult watching the original series (as well as Rebuild, though not quite as much) because he reminded me so much of myself back in high school. While I can see why people dislike him, they really shouldn't for the same reasons that make him very human.

I'm glad you were able to find understanding people in your life, anon, and I hope things get easier for you ♥

[mizu-takishima.livejournal.com]

OP, I just wanna hug you :(

Shinji reminds me of myself, but shows like Hetalia & Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan have helped me cope with my depression a little more. (It's funny because both TTGL & Eva were made by Gainax. Maybe that's the creator's ways of telling us something? <3)

I honestly think it's disgusting when people call Shinji a pussy or whatever. I know he's whiny and mopey, but most people with some form of depression have a tenancy to, y'know, seem that way? Also- even though he's only 14 years old, he's literally carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. "Little boy! Get in the robot and fight these godzilla-like super-powered monster-things to prevent Humanity from being wiped out! Also you gotta do it before time runs out and your Eva unit runs out of juice! Oh and your arm might feel like it's being ripped out sometimes but suck it up ya pussy! But y'know, you don't have to do this crap if you don't want to <3"

Also...he's a Japanese little boy :x The culture's over there is different. Even so much as disagreeing with another person's opinion can be seen as disagreeing with the actual person. They wouldn't even be able to riot & loot when their world is crashing down around them (literally) because that's simply "not how you behave in public" and their Japanese blood somehow makes them "better than that". Not to mention what it means to be "manly" over there is different in comparison to the states.

Anyway, even if Shinji is eerily like you, I hope that the movies manage to give Shinji the happy ending he deserves, whether he completely "gets over it" or not :) Feel better, Anon

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

I like Shinji :(

[stillarium.livejournal.com]

I never disliked Shinji. I read the manga first and was able to really sympathize with him. But most people go by animeversion (which I've only watched much later) and I can kinda get why they find him annoying there. It's just hard to watch and it feels like he's practically shouting and panicking all the time. Don't get me wrong, I can understand perfectly with all the facts given, it's realistic that he's struggling. He's just a 14-year-old boy who has no mother, was abandoned by his father, is used and alone, feels like nobody understands him and has to fight under extremely difficult circumstances etc... but as a comparison, my sister once watched the episode where Asuka flips out in german and I was barely able to stand it because I hated how the german Asuka (who has an IMO very annoying voice) sounded when she screamed around. It's like how I LOVED Grave of the Fireflies but my father only stated that the whining of the little girl was annoying >.>

Nevertheless, I guess most people who really dislike or hate Shinji just can't understand him and those people do seem a bit shallow to me. It's not easy to deal with this, but if a friend is suffering from depression or the likes, you should try to help or empathize with them... or you're not really a friend after all.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

I never hated Shinji. I liked him, actually and kinda had a crush on him when I was about his age. I was a little surprised by the hate in the fandom for him and Asuka when I first joined, actually.
Still, I don't know that everybody who hates the character would hate you, though. Fictional characters - at least those like Shinji, teenage pilots in the big robot anime genre - are there as an escape. Even though it's often preferable in, say, high literature for characters to be as close to real as possible, not everybody is happy with that in escapist fantasies like big robot sci-fi. In reality, it's totally understandable for a kid to react to abuse by shutting down, and nobody should blame them for it or call them weak. That would be a fucking terrible thing to do. But when you're watching it on the screen and all the characters are fictional, it can be disappointing not to see the kid stand up for themselves, because that's what you the audience member want them to do. And the insertion fantasy in Evangelion is not the child abuse and depression for most viewers, it's the piloting, and you're wondering why Shinji will throw that away when you would (possibly literally) give your left arm to do it.

Sorry for the tl;dr but all I mean is, if it helps OP, it's not necessarily about hating Shinji as a person but hating his failure to be the escapist fantasy character somebody wanted.

[haleysings.livejournal.com]

Shinji is my favorite character in Eva. It's not necessarily that I see myself in him (maybe a little, but overall my life and family situation is pretty good), but I still find him a really fascinating, real character that you don't always get in anime--or any medium. Maybe I just have an interest in stories that exorcise a creator's personal demons or something, I don't know.

Still, I hope you've found more supportive and understanding friends now, OP. I know you can't just "get over it", but I do hope that your future is, or will, look better than your past.

[twilightedge.livejournal.com]

NGE helped me to realize that I was depressed and I needed to get help. I related so well to him and I didn't realize why until half way through the series.

I hope it helps you OP. And you're not whiny. Depression has a strange hold on some people but it's hard to see the light. The thing I liked most about it is that the people closest to him never gave up on trying to help him. In the end though, it was his /choice/ that made him decide to fix/work through his (Anno's) depression.

[hoshika.livejournal.com]

I didn't like the way they portrayed his depression. I knew the kid had some serious mental illness, but they did everything possible in the old anime to not make him not sympathetic at all. That's why I don't like him, it's unfair but that's how it is.

In the movies, it's so much better. There is more depth to him, and I can relate, understand and feel his struggle much more.

Really, there are a few people out there who just don't like his characterization because of the crappy way they set Shinji up. It was plainly poorly done in the old anime.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_dahne_/]

I never understood how what people got from Evangelion was "Shinji is a wuss" and not "Gendo is a horrible human being."

I hope things got better for you, anon.

[hey-feygele.livejournal.com]

I find a lot of the characters in this series unlikeable when they remind me of myself at my worst. I wonder sometimes if that's where a lot of the Shinji hate comes from.

[toshi-hakari.livejournal.com]

I've always loved Shinji, anon <3 I still do :) I always had the urge to be friends with him and help him, even though depression isn't something that is easy to deal with.

When I was first into NGE (at the age of 14), I was, admittedly, unable to truly understand what Shinji was going through and also kinda had the "why isn't he finally snapping out of it" mindset, but a few years later, at around 17 or 18, I was hit with depression for the first time in my life and could finally see and understand.

I had bouts of depression for a few years and they're not here anymore (though they might resurface in the future), but I wouldn't ever judge anyone for "not snapping out of it". After feeling so incredibly numb and tired of it all and realizing that it's impossible to do so, there's just no way I could.

I wish your friends could understand it as well, but admittedly, it is quite difficult to empathize when you have no clue what depression is like.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard to like Shinji, but I always felt sorry for the kid. His dad was a complete dick and he was thrown into a situation he couldn't handle at all. He made some bad choices but you can't really blame the poor kid for everything. Eva is kind of a study of this sort of emotional state. It's captivating, but damn do I feel like shit after I watch it.

I'm referring to the Original series just so you know. Never seen the Rebuild movies.

Also I can sort of relate in that I've come across a different fictional character who was almost exactly like me. It's really painful and kinda freaky. It was like having to relive all that old crap you thought you left behind. But in a way it was sort of a relief. Does that make sense OP?

[ladysugarquill]

This is why I judge the fuck out of anyone who hates Shinji. (Not anyone who doesn't like the show, or is not interested in the character, but those who hate the guy's guts).

The poor kid has a million problems, and still has more balls than half the cast. On the TV show he keeps risking his life to protect others, even though no one protects him - the few who try are lousy at it.

Anon, I think Shinji is badass for fighting his issues and still going on with life, and if you're like him, you're badass too.

And those friends don't even deserve your thoughts.