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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-18 04:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1720 ]

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Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
They've co-opted a fictional racial slur and are using it as an actual real-world insult? What the hell is wrong with them? Tell me its ignorance. Tell me they don't actually know what they're saying. Not that that's much of an excuse anyway. People can call me humourless and oversensitive, but I'm fucking appalled by that.

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
...It's a fictional slur about a fictional racial divide. Yeah, you're being oversensitive.

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
*eyeroll* It was an analogy. Most of the entire canon of literature is analogies, you know. But it was a reference to something very ugly and yes, real. I can't believe some people have managed to miss the point of it so completely.

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
*eyeroll right back at ya*

I highly doubt there is anyone in the world over the age of say 12 who could read HP and not get that it was an analogy. That doesn't mean it's actually insulting IRL to call someone a mudblood. Since wizards don't actually exist.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Every word can be insulting if you're using them as an insult, like dirty melon. But it's stupid being so upset because some people are using "muddy" as a silly insult. There's fighting against prejudices and there's making a complete fool of oneself.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Words are insulting if they're understood to be insults by those who hear them. And I still don't see what's silly about 'muddy'. The meaning and the inference is obvious.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean that you can use every word you want as an insult if you say it with that intent.

And since OP isn't saying that her classmates use that word with a racial meaning, it's silly to be so upset about that.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, so I'm allowed to suddenly use "cunt" as an insult, again. Sweet.

By the way, that was sarkasm.

(For the extra slow ones: I don't give a fuck if someone says this to me, because i have one. You think men are so insulted if you call them "dick"? Same BS to me.)

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

If people were using "muddy" to refer to real-world people of mixed race of ethnicity, I'd be all for stamping it out. But if you're legitimately upset about a slur towards muggle-born wizards, you are ridiculously misplaced priorities and probably too much time on your hands. Spend your time worrying about things that actually hurt people in the real world.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
sa

mixed race *or ethinicity

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course I don't care about fictional characters. I care about the real-world people that those fictional characters represent. I don't think those college students mean any malice by it, but I'm bothered that they don't know, or don't care about, the context that the word was used in. They have failed to draw the parallel between Rowling's fictionalised blood-racism and our own real-world prejudice.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure most of them get it. They are apparently, however, better at separating fiction from reality than you.

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware that 'wizard' is a race.

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*closes eyes and prays for strength*

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, you're killing me! Stop it, please! XDD

Re: Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*closes eyes and prays for magic*

Re: Seriously?

[identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
A fictional racial slur that unfortunately may have had a real-world derivation (Google "mud people" and notice that the first entry that pops up is NOT about Terry Goodkind.)