[ SECRET POST #1727 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1727 ⌋


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Comments

[stunt-muppet.livejournal.com]

Exactly. And Triumph of the Will only the most famous example. Not to mention the historical context - Germany was slowly crawling out of a devastating economic crash, they felt like they'd been humiliated and disproportionaltely punished by the rest of Europe for World War I, and Hitler and the Nazi pary promised a restored, revitalized Germany, preying on the hardships that ordinary Germans already faced. It wasn't as simple as everyone being an "evil person", and that's what makes it so insidious and terrifying.

/tl;dr

[blood-sorbet.livejournal.com]

Also, at first Hitler seemed like a really cool, nice guy. He was a very attractive (um, not physically, though whatever floats your boat lol) political figure and won over a ton of people at the very beginning, before they started doing anything wrong. By the time the party started committing the really awful acts, most members were so entrenched in the ideologies, they weren't going to just up and quit all of a sudden...everyone became disillusioned more gradually, but by then it was too late to leave the party out of fear of death or loss of everything you owned.

[hairspray.livejournal.com]

this is what I came here to say. My Philosophy professor once dated a woman who's grandmother had voted for and supported the Nazi Party during that time. He told us he'd asked her how she could possibly have thought they were what was best for her country and her people, and all she said was "You've never been hungry."

[marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com]

This. Germany dug itself out of one of the worst depressions possible at the time Hitler came to power. You'd probably do a lot of things if it meant you had food and a job and a clean shirt on your back, after burning your worthless deutschemarks for heat.

[tabaqui]

Which makes me rather terrified for who Americans *i'm one* will vote for in 2012, because a lot of people out there are desperate and pissed off and a lot of really objectionable people are stirring them up with rants about 'taking the country back' - apparently to Medieval times - so....

Yeah. Skeery.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell me about it. For example there's a hell of a lot anti-immigrant sentiment out there, especially in California where I live, and it's scaring me.

(Not that it hasn't been that way before but it's more out in the open now than it had been. An anti-immigration ad aired during the Republican debates on television.)

[tabaqui]

Yes. The hate seems to be just so *out there* right now, like since Pres. Obama was elected it's a-okay to break out the watermelon jokes and whatnot. It all just seems so much *more* than it was before, and people seem to be getting so 'us' and 'them' - and certain political factions/people seem to just love stirring it all up and feeding the fire higher and higher. It's just...gah. I hate it.

[marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com]

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omg why did you have to say it like that

*doesn't sleep tonight. tea party mobs will eat me.*

[tabaqui]

Sorry!
*pat pat pat*

[(Anonymous)]

more than just feeling like they'd been disproportionately punished, they actually *were*-- they were devastated economically, physically, mentally/emotionally, and honestly when you're that far down you start becoming willing to buy some crazy shit.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, this, a thousand times over. I'm constantly irritated by the fact that a huge number of people don't realize that if things had happened differently at the end of WWI, WWII might never have happened. >:(


(not to mention that things would be very different in the Middle East and Africa!)

[stunt-muppet.livejournal.com]

There was a story my history teacher used to tell about one of his family members in postwar Germany seeing a basket of Deutschmarks out on a bench, that someone had forgotten. By the time he emerged from the store, the basket had been stolen - but not the Deutschmarks in it. Because the basket was worth more than they were.

I mean, most of us can't even conceive being in that dire economic straights.

[piratesswoop.livejournal.com]

I remember reading that--about how they printed so many sheets of money and people were just using them as fire fuel because they were so worthless.

[elialshadowpine]

I've heard that story, although the setting was the US during the Depression. The point remains.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for proving that this community is overrun with Nazi apologists.

[(Anonymous)]

Viewing history objectively=being a Nazi apologist. Dat logic.

[stunt-muppet.livejournal.com]

You know, every so often I have the suspicion that you post all these WWII secrets yourself so you can make accusations of Nazi apologism and feel all superior inside.

Fess up. It's all a sophisticated self-pleasuring mechanism.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed, though I think it's important to remember that their economic privations were made much worse by wealthy currency speculators within the nation, who kept sabotaging the recovering economy for their own benefit (much like the people in Ireland who were actually exporting food during the great Potato Famine.) I think it needs to be said, because I've met lots of people who actually think that the entire historical context in which Hitler came to power was caused by the Treaty of Versailles. Some of them are actually like "The nations that won WWI actually caused WWII, because they put Germany under such horrific pressure that they had no choice -" and it's like "lol no."

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't aware of that tidbit. Thank you for the info.

[(Anonymous)]

this is true, but we can no more blame the entire nation for those greedy assholes than we can blame all Americans for the greedy bankers and whatnot who caused our current worldwide economic conundrum.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate how it's always the population that suffers for the greed of just a few. :(