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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-30 07:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #1732 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1732 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Troop Beverly Hills]


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[Sanctuary]


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[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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(Mikael Åkerfeldt and Steven Wilson)


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[FFVIII]


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[Man of the House]


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[Kingdom Hearts]


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[Harry Potter]


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10. [repeat]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Bandom]


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[Steve Juliano/I Am Ghost]


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[WWE]


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[Doctor Stephen Strange, Jon Stewart, Robert Downey Jr., Michael Palin, Reed Richards.]


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[FDR/Winston Churchill]


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[The Guy with the Glasses]


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[Amadeus]


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[Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica]


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[Alphas]


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[The World Ends With You]


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[WWE]


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[Homestuck]


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[Doctor Who]


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32. [SPOILERS for Persona 4]



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33. [SPOILERS for Fallout 3]



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34. [SPOILERS for Buffy the Vampire Slayer]



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35. [SPOILERS for Leviathan]



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36. [SPOILERS for Pokemon Special]



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37. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire]



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38. [SPOILERS for A Storm of Swords]



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39. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual assault]



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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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42. [TRIGGER WARNING for anti-trans violence]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-09-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] roguebelle.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'm hoping she'll have learned some valuable lessons from the Meereen travesty (a plotline I maintain only exists in the first place because GRRM couldn't figure out what the fuck to do with her to fill the five-year-gap once he decided he wanted to cover that rather than skip it), and will now move the fuck on, and grow into a good queen. She's still young, and I think she still has the potential to become an effective leader. She has some good instincts. She needs better discipline, and to build a council of reliable advisers she can trust and that she will listen to.

Has nothing to do with any brand of feminism or just wanting a woman on the throne, incidentally. Clearly Cersei has not done too well as a ruler, and I'm pretty sure Asha would be an equal disaster in different ways.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anyone who'd make a good ruler amongst the contenders right now?

I mean Cersei, obviously not. But Stannis? Is completely uncharismatic, enthralled to a foreign religion, stubborn, shortsighted, and a complete asshole. I don't see how that's in any convincing way superior to "extremely naive and indecisive, but means well".

[identity profile] roguebelle.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Same goes for Victarion. And then I guess there's little Prince Aemon, who's been raised to be perfect -- which means he very likely way isn't, and I'm convinced he's a pretender, anyway.

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[identity profile] linndechir.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
It will never fail to amuse and irritate me how people seem to think that his lack of charisma or not very pleasant personality somehow disqualify Stannis from being a good king. Since when do good rulers have to be nice, charming people? They need to be smart, stubborn and have the right mixture of principles and pragmatism, which Stannis all has. He's less shortsighted than any of the other contenders and he's very obviously not "enthralled", but using Melisandre's power without actually giving a damn about her god. He's far from perfect, but he's still the best choice around. But, hey, I'm biased.

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[identity profile] agnes-bean.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I basically assume it's not going to end up being ANY of the direct condensers. Maybe Jon, I've heard some convincing arguments for Sansa if she learns from Littlefinger (while keeping her heart). I go agree that of the direct contenders Dany would probably be my choice (or maybe Aegon, but it's hard to tell about him right now).

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Tywin would have been the best. :(

[identity profile] helenadax.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't finished ASWD yet, but I don't see anything wrong with Daenerys as queen. She's made some mistakes, of course, but she's like fourteen and she's in a very difficult situation.

I don't think that readers are forgiving her things just because she's a woman. People is very hard with Cersei, Catelyn and sometimes, Sansa.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. Sure she made plenty of mistakes, but I wasn't yelling at her that she seemed like a moron. I've no idea what I'd do in that situation, and I doubt any of the other potential rulers would have had seen the perfect way out either. Her thought processes weren't terrible.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2011-10-03 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. The treatment Cat alone gets from the fandom says that the fandom doesn't forgive characters just because they are women.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Really? In my experience I see way more bashing of Daenerys for things that the other throne contenders are guilty of (but it's somehow alright because they're dudes) than I ever see support for Daenerys about things for which they condemn the other contenders (because she's a lady).

(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
She's what...15? Yeah. So she's not making the best decisions. But her heart is on a side I can sympathize with and if she learns better self-control...she needs more experience.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I defend a lot of ASOIAF's female characters (especially Cat), but I don't think any of them are perfect and Dany is included in that. Dany's story doesn't really grab me personally, but I do think it is an interesting journey. But I also think she would NOT be a good queen of Westeros.

#TEAM ANARCHY.

[identity profile] matitablu.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
#TEAM REPUBLIC

[identity profile] agnes-bean.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that she wouldn't make a good queen (esp. of intruge-heavy Westeros) and, more importantly to me as a huge fan of hers, I think what ADWD proves is she wouldn't be HAPPY being Queen. She has god ideals and wants to help, but the day to day of ruling is really not her bag. Which is fine -- she's the dragon, after all. IMO she should go to the wall, help fend of the others, and retire. I think that would make her happiest.

-- Huge Dany fan

[identity profile] agnes-bean.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
*GOOD ideals. Freaking broken O key.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have a bizarre headcanon in which Dany and Sansa meet and say "fuck all this noise" and elope together. Other than that, I generally agree that Dany isn't cut out for politics - I see her more as leading an army than leading a nation, if that makes sense.

[identity profile] miakun.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really think anyone would be a good King or Queen of the 7 Realms, because they're all too different to work split up like that. They need to faction off.

[identity profile] roguebelle.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I feel pretty strongly like this, too. I mean, at least North, South, and the Islands should splinter. Probably you could get the middle parts working together reasonably well -- but they're the parts that are most culturally and economically linked, anyway. They have the most infrastructure connecting them. The other regions have distinct differences in both how they operate and why they do so.

And it's not like they've all been one giant kingdom for all that long, anyway. 300 years (in a freaking world where nothing much seems to have changed, including language and technology, in 8000) is not that long.

[identity profile] miakun.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Thank you. I feel like that exactly. The needs of the Iron Islands do not match the needs of the North or the needs of Castlery Rock. But since every leader seems to be after the power and wanting to run things and no one ever quite gets to do it themselves (because they're trying to manage something far too big it's impossible), no one's really fit for the job.
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-10-01 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Word to this, especially since it's shown that news travels incredibly slowly. You can't have a ruler of a huge chunk of land like Westeros when they'll only find out about rebellions or droughts months after they've started.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Who would you prefer, jw

Robb is the male version of Dany and everyone loves the hell out of him.

OP

(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Robb makes mistakes, he's not a walking mountain of self-righteousness. Or maybe he is, but at least we don't know because he's not a POV character. And I personally don't like Robb much, but he and Dany have nothing in common.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-01 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to ride her face.

[identity profile] amarielah.livejournal.com 2011-10-02 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a bit early to decide whether or not she'd be a good queen, considering how young she is. At the very least she's a good person, which is not something that can be said for a lot of the other contenders.

Personally, though, I don't give a shit who ends up winning the "throne". I'm far more interested in the journey and the character development; how boring would it be if Dany started out as a perfect ruler?