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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-14 08:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #1746 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1746 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yes! Precure 5/Yes! Pretty Cure 5]


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[FFVIII]


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[Lost Girl]


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[Hogan's Heroes]


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[Emilie Autumn]


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[Kagerou]


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[Love Actually]


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13. http://i52.tinypic.com/2qatp5d.jpg
[South Park, linked for porn and also probably underage porn at that]


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[Alice in Wonderland]


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[Young Avengers]


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[Muppets]


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[George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette]


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[Naruto]


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42. [SPOILERS for doctor who]



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44. [SPOILERS for surburban knights (dvd)]



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45. [SPOILERS for The Hour (BBC)]



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46. [SPOILERS for Adventure Time]

[TRIGGER WARNING for pedophilia]




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Notes:

Sorry about late, FS was broken on LJ for a while.

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well if you read the secret above OP, I think there are people who agree with you.

It was really bad. Like we went through all this mystery with River just for her to end up being his wife? WHAT EVERYONE THOUGHT SHE WAS IN THE FUCKING BEGINNING.

It was just not pulled off well at all. I'm at the point where I really don't want to see River at all anymore and I used to like her.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2011-10-15 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly think Moffat thinks the viewers are idiots. This is the second time he pulled his "OMG, isn't this a twist!" thing waaaay after many viewers ha already figured out what the twist was...

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think Moffat kind of realized fandom had figured out where he was going and decided to backtrack and come up with a bunch of nonsensical ridiculous plots that weren't even necessary in the end because he still took it all to the same conclusion.

I would have preferred if he had just been playing with us and the "Wedding of River Song" title had been a smoke screen for something else. Having the Doctor and River get married seemed pointless and only seemed to serve as, "Well now that you're my wife, you'll do what I say!" (that may not have been the point, but I just got this sketchy feeling from it.)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
After having read all the idiotic secrets and seen the nerdrage, I'm certain the fans are idiots.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because Davies not being subtle and shoving the plot in our face wasn't condescending or thinking we were idiots at all.

The most subtle thing Davies ever did was YANA and four fucking beats. Everything else was spoon-fed.

They're both not good writers, but at least Moffat leaves things in the episodes you can notice when going back.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2011-10-15 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because Davies [etc]

We're talking about a story written by Stephen Moffat. What does whether Davies was a good writer or not have to do with it?

[identity profile] silver-miko.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Because if you dislike Moffat's writing you must clearly love Davies because it's always Davies vs Moffat and an eternal yin and yang battle throughout Whodom. And this is bad because apparently Davies is a terrible writer and we're not allowed to like his stories and must praise Moffat.

At least, that appears to be the logic sometimes applied here. Also, you're not allowed to just discuss Moffat's writing. Someone always brings RTD into it with- "WELL OH YEA AT LEAST DIDNT DO XYZ THING RTD THIS!.....etc etc.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Totally, totally this. It was like Moffat explicitly built up to the whole wedding thing, then got to the point where he was supposed to write something so that it became surpring and interesting, couldn't think of anything and just went 'fuck it, he'll just marry her in thirty seconds and its entire significance will be to expediate another aspect of the plot!'

(Anonymous) 2011-10-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's like the entire problem I have with Moffat's recent Who wrapped up with a pretty little bow on top. It feels like he doesn't write characters or stories as much as he writes collections of plot devices.

I liked the Astronaut/Moon two-parter well enough even though it was guilty of that sort of writing but after that all I could see was just how much more interesting episodes focusing on the little concepts he crammed his episodes full of would be.

An episode centering on the Tesselecta? Something that actually took time to explore a world where all of time was happening at once? Sure, sign me up! But instead what we got was... well, what we got.

It's a shame because I consider Eleven ~my Doctor~ but I just can't stand Moffat's writing, as contradictory as that may be. I want to be optimistic about series 7, but...