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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-24 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1756 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
What really annoys me is whe i have to correct someone on grammar or spelling in their fanfiction, knowing they are (not always, but mostly) from the USA. How can it be that someone native to the language has worse knowledge of their own language than me?! And then those who proclaim in their profile that they are at a University. Goddamm, learn your own language!

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
You can be living in the USA and English still NOT be your mother tongue.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
there are tons of ESL speakers in the USA jsyk

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to assume that this is a mock post, since it contains not one, not two, but three glaring mistakes.

(am I proving the OP's point? By focusing on the mistakes, not the content of the post)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's an education issue. I don't live in an English speaking country, but I sincerely pitied my teachers for having to decipher their students' messy collection of lines that were allegedly words.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
How can it be that someone native to the language has worse knowledge of their own language than me?!

Probably because you were taught it formally (or if you weren't, you at least had to put effort into figuring out how it works) while they learned it naturally as kids and never even thought about there being rules for it.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
D ESL A

That's a poor excuse, though. Or - and I actually don't know this because I've never thought about this - isn't English taught in schools in those countries that have English as the first language?

Not only have I been taught English since I was about nine, I've been formally taught my own native language since I was seven. Obviously we learn to talk it naturally as kids and quite a few learn to read and write it before going to school (I, for one), but learning spelling and grammar and all that is an important (possibly even the most important) part of our education.

The thought that learning their native language formally isn't selfevident for native English speakers is weird and mind-boggling.

[identity profile] delwynmarch.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
20 years ago, I was an exchange student in Western Canada. When a grammar test came up in my Grade 11 English class, I was the only one to ace it. I was baffled, until I realised that my Canadian classmates had never gone through the same rigorous Grammar classes I had had to endure in my native tongue. I don't imagine that this state of affairs has improved since then...

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a native English speaker and I ... remember having formal classes in the language, too. Like, I had spelling classes, and penmanship, and grammar, and writing. And this was all just in grade school. I didn't pick up everything I know from the street. ;-)