[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1756 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 165 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Addendum

[delwynmarch.livejournal.com]

Whether it happens in many fandoms or not is rather irrelevant. If OP is complaining about it, then it must happen in OP's fandom(s), which is all the justification necessary for the secret to be made.

Also, quite frankly, there are only so many times I can be told, "If your ESL, then you MUST have a beta. I can be you're beta if you want :) ", or watch Person A assume that Person B is ESL because of A's bad SPaG (even when it's very obvious that A is a native), before I start getting defensive any time someone tries to link bad English to being ESL. The assumption that ESLs always write in bad English, and that only ESLs write in bad English, is really grating.

Re: Addendum

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, it's not. It depends on whether or not the OP is actually exaggerating. For all we know, the OP could be stuck in a lousy fandom, sure, but the OP could also be complaining about five people out of hundreds of reviewers.

Genuine question here: do many people who are ESL automatically arrive to the conclusion that any advice concerning getting a beta is actually a thinly-veiled statement that native speakers think only ESLs write in bad English? Because I'd like to let you know, with all sincerity, that this isn't the case. If I offer to beta an ESL, it's because I know that it's difficult to learn multiple languages and would genuinely like to help. Native-speaking betas are a good tool to use for reasons that aren't "because ESLs don't write well." On the contrary, it's because some of them - and certainly not all of them, sure - have been trained to catch the tiny details.

So I agree with you in saying that ESL =/= bad English, but not everyone who offers to beta read for you are assuming you don't have a grasp of the English language. If we can read what you're saying, chances are we get that you get it. We're just trying to help.