[ SECRET POST #1766 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1766 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Four and Romana were never romantically involved, what you're reading into is Tom Baker and Lalla Ward's off screen romance that failed tragically. By 'nine' I meant 'eight' (whoops) and that telemovie certainly didn't give Dr Who a new lease of life.

Ten and Eleve's "romances" were written awfully. I prefer to think of them as never happening, to be quite honest, rather than excuse the shoddy work of two writers having a battle as to who can make the "best" Doctor romance. How on earth did the romance lend anything to Rose's character? Or Martha's? Or even the godawful River Song who was so inconsistent and cringeworthy even when she wasn't a psychopath who killed for no good reason (something the Doctor has traditionally never stood for)

Your 'hahaha oh wow' doesn't win you any points because I quite happily like to pretend something never happened rather than lend legitimacy to a writer's pissing contest.

[(Anonymous)]

Ignoring canon because you don't agree with it is find if you're writing fic/labeling it AU. But to just say it's NOT canon because you don't agree with it? Canon doesn't work that way.

Do the writers suck at writing believable romances involving the Doctor? Abso-fucking-lutely. I will completely agree with you on that. But to say someone 'should stay asexual' when they were never proven to be asexual (and fathered a child, which doesn't mean anything w/regards to sexuality one way or another, but certainly can't be erased from view either) just because the writers suck is kind of pointless.

That's like saying romance novels shouldn't have couples in them if the writer sucks, or moves shouldn't get happy endings because the writers dropped so many plot holes along the way that the Titanic probably fell into one.

[(Anonymous)]

?? I said I preferred not to accept it, though I have long grudgingly accepted that this is what they choose Dr Who to be. I know how canon works, I'd just rather pick and choose what I consume.

The Doctor never fathered a child; there's no biological link asserted between him and Susan. I also said he SHOULD have (not that he IS) been asexual from the start because a teacher/mentor/wizard archetype is so much more interesting than an Everyhero (young, fit, sexy)... bring back the Pertwees and the Troughtons because it allows so much more scope for character development beyond 'teenage girl new to the universe has a crush' (or... that hot mess River Song was)

And that's a poor analogy; romance novels include couples by definition of the genre. Romance has never really been a staple of action/sci-fi/educational programs.

[(Anonymous)]

Romance has never really been a staple of action/sci-fi/educational programs.

Oh if only. I have yet to be able to just sit and watch things blow up without a romance plot shoved in there.

-James Bond
-Indiana Jones
-every Bruce Willis movie ever made
-even my GI Joes didn't escape the romance!

Also, probably not the best source, but better than some;

"The Doctor consistently maintained that Susan was his biological granddaughter — or at the very least that it was likely, because he had a family in the sense that humans understood."

Sauce. (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Susan_Campbell)

[(Anonymous)]

As a genre, it has never been a staple. An action film without romance is still an action film. More to the point, the love storylines are never the major storylines, unlike the wedding of River Song, Rose's crush being focused on to the point she was effectively cast as the One True Companion, etc etc (or even without the Doctor, the Epic Romance of Rory and Amy which wasn't That Epic At All).

That source contradicts itself, really... "or at the very least it was likely". That's insertion, not fact, not to mention Who canon contradicts itself with how Time Lords are made.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of DW canon contradicts itself. XD I think it'd get bored of itself if it didn't.

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The Doctor never fathered a child

He's stated he's been a father. I suppose you could argue he adopted, but that feels a bit like hearing hoof prints and looking for zebras instead of horses.