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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-19 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1782 ]

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[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-21 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
What is CP? I've never heard of it and I'd like to avoid seeing it D:

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-21 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
... child porn...

what else would it be

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-21 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. I don't know! I've never heard it referred to as CP, so I just assumed it was some sort of Two Girls One Cup-esque thing. I've just heard people say "child porn" or "kiddie porn." I also imagine it's not that hard to avoid, since even the worst trolls don't spam it all over the place, so naturally I assumed it was some new thing that was being circulated. I mean, thank God it isn't, but I don't think that's too much of a stretch for me to assume.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
cp is just an abbreviation though, one I thought was fairly obvious - moreso in the context of our comments.

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-22 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Since my mind doesn't ever automatically go to "child porn," it wasn't that obvious to me. I assumed it was the name of some video. Since I didn't know some of the other videos you were talking about, I assumed I was [thankfully] out of the loop and wanted to remain that way.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
maybe I've just been on the internet longer than you

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe I've been in less discussions about child pornography than you :o

I'm not sure I understand your weird sense of elitism about this, lol.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
what are you trying to suggest and what sense of elitism

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing at all~
lol nevermind.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah sure you weren't lol

no really, what sense of elitism? there isn't even anything to be elitist about ffs the internet is a shithole.

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It certainly is, which is why elitists are so ridiculous. But they do exist, and usually flounce about like it's something to be proud of, rofl.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
haha oh I'm elitist about plenty of things and I don't hide this lol

but having been on the internet for as long I can remember (which is at least 14 or 15 years) is absolutely not one of them!

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I just meant internet elitists, lol. I'm not saying I'm not elitist in some areas.

About the same here, and I'm not proud of it either. It blows my mind that there are people who are. I've met them. It's a terrible thing. Usually leave wanting to punch them in the face. I'm glad you aren't one of them, because the internet really doesn't need more megalomaniacs.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really even know what an internet elitist is tbh

I'm not really ashamed of it, I'm just not proud. it's just been a thing in my life for a long time is all. I'm curious to know how old you were when you first went online now :o (I'm 23 now so do the mathsss)

I've been involved in small and large scale trolling, taken part in my fair share of wank but these days I'm pretty chill about stuff. I actively avoid places where dickheadish people converge in large groups so my time online is rarely spoiled.

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Just know that they're pathetic people. "I've been online longer than you so I'm better than you and know more than you ever will!"-types. Oh boy.

I'm 23 too. I think it was around 1998 when I first actually posted online, but I know I went on AOL-for-kids or something before that and played games because that's all my mom and stepdad would let me do, lol. After I learned how to navigate by myself I pretty much stuck to the same few websites over and over, mainly fanfiction and anime parody stuff to make me feel less ronery before I met people irl who liked it.

I think most people who get really worked up or angry about things are younger and inexperienced, so they don't know any better. I've never really done trolling (just not my thing) but outside of a few secrets comms like this I never really interact with too many anons or unknowns anymore. (I think the worst one is actually loli-secret, which is full of girls taking a frilly fashion waaay too seriously.) I'm not in any fandoms in particular atm either so I'm sure I'd be more subject to dickheads if so.

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[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
what is there to even be elitist about..?

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why I was confused.
You seemed like it was an internet failure on my part to not know what an abbreviation was, then went on to say you'd been on the internet longer than me, which is usually elitism speak.
Sorry if I misconstrued what you said though, it's easy to do online :o

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
lol what the fucking fuck

firstly, I actually thought you were kinda dumb for not knowing what it was but whatever. secondly, I said maybe. for all we both know you could have been online longer than I have.

thirdly since when is being on the internet for a long time a thing to be proud or happy about? trust me, if I could forget the things I've seen, I would. I don't think I'm better than anybody for seeing a man stick a jar up his bum and clench or pictures of people with half their body missing and I'm not weird enough to think that seeing that kind of thing is cool.

tl;dr my statement was to be taken literally and you should really read comments properly in future!!!!

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
also sorry I guess, for thinking you were dumb. I was just surprised somebody couldn't work out what it meant on their own, given the topic was about nasty shit on the internet.

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly just try not to think about it ever :/ It's the equivalent of sticking my fingers in my ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU."

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
even though I've seen some truly horrific shit in my time, I'm actually unfazed by most of it ): I'm more bothered by the fact that I will never be able to forget it.

guess we're both lucky that cp is extremely hard to find.

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've never had to run away from the comp and vomit or something, like I've heard of some people. Sometimes it makes me wonder if I've just become jaded or if I just have a higher tolerance. I tell myself it's the latter.

Isn't Anonymous doing something to track down a CP (as I will now refer to it) ring? At least with them, the internet has a beacon of hope for being slightly less terrifying.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've come very close to being sick on more than a few occasions. worst thing I've ever seen was this image that would get spammed every day by an anon troll on an lj community I used to moderate. I had to repeatedly tell myself that it was a squished duck egg just to cope with it. gore isn't even against the lj tos so I was not actually obligated to delete it.

I asked lj abuse if there was anything that could be done about it but they were like sorry we can't do jack. I don't understand why dick pics are not allowed, but pictures of people with crushed skulls are.

re: jaded vs high tolerance, for me it's both but with more focus on the latter maybe. as I've been more exposed to things I become less bothered by them - the power 5 is a great example. they used to turn my stomach when I was 15 but now they illicit no reaction at all.

I have no idea what they're doing at the moment, I don't keep up with their activities nowadays. if they are, kudos to them.

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
also about people fleeing and puking, I remember reading some people were sick when they read that fucked up face hugger type birthing scene from the 4th Twilight book.

it was thoroughly disgusting but I still think it was an odd thing to get sick over.

Just gonna reply to both at once

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
LJ has some priority issues, seriously. There's a whole comm out there dedicated to just posting horrible shit, including a video of a pig being tortured and slammed repeatedly against a wall. One would think that kind of grotesque imagery is a little more scarring than an erection.

I'm the same way. I've seen a lot of parodies and such of them, some even before seeing the actual video, so that may have had some effect on me because my first reaction is to laugh, not gag. Try explaining that to someone who isn't online regularly.

There are many other reasons people should be gagging when they read Twilight, lol. I haven't had the chance to read the birth scene, personally, but I doubt it's anything new. I read Poppy Z. Brite when I was 13 and she wrote about vampire babies eating their way out of the womb and aborted fetuses on rusty metal hooks, but now I'm curious...