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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-24 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #1787 ]

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[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm reconsidering my above comment, since you just kind of sound frigid. Maybe OP is the same.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
DA, but you sound like a bag of dicks. Someone having sex differently than you does not equal frigid, and for that matter, some of us don't like to talk during sex because we just show people what we want. Not our fault you have to explicitly describe everything to your partner.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's not a dick move to say someone is frigid unless you regard frigidity as an insult. Surely you won't disagree with me that some people are frigid?

Anon's comment just struck me as a really inhibited thing to say, like they found it gross or something.

[identity profile] lipstickcrisis.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really have any opinion about any of this 'cause, hey, whatever floats anyone's boat in fiction or reality is their business, but I do just have to pop in here and ask: you really don't consider calling some frigid an insult? I'm genuinely curious. Even if you personally don't consider it an insult, you don't see how society as a whole considers the concept a bad thing?

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a psych major lol. So, while I realize contextually that it can be a gendered insult to call a woman frigid, I also can't assume OP is female as they've given no indication.

I don't consider it an insult because frigidity does exist, and sexual therapy exists because of it. In this context (not knowing the gender of the poster and already having a discussion of preference) I don't think it consitutes an insult so much as an observation.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it consitutes an insult so much as an observation.

Yeah, to go with your harmless "~you sound like a virgin" observation above, amirite?

You're a psych major and you can tell shit like this from fandom secrets? Amazing. What a talent. I think you'd assume my mother never saw a dick in her lifetime.

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[identity profile] cowgirlmaxwell.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a psych major lol

Why don't you just shut up and go study a real science then?

[identity profile] billybobfred0.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
So, wait, gendered insults are okay if directed at guys?

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...frigid is an insult, and you'd know that as well as the why if you were any kind of psychology major. I think you might just be an idiot.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL what if I am, choffman? What if I am fat, ugly, poor and uneducated to boot? What if?

What the flying FUCK does this have to do with FANFICTION reading preferences?

~~Normal people do it. WHO CARES?! I'm reading about winged bishonen who shit gold and attend Hogwarts. Preferring them silent during sex is the LEAST outrageous thing going on here, lbr.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My point is that talking during sex, even in fanfiction, is a realistic thing to do. And since the OP seems to be concerned about it being "OOC" for characters to do it, it's not a leap of logic to argue that if OP is butthurt about realism they need to rethink their position.

Also I don't personally care if you're a bit frigid. As I said above, I don't consider it to be a negative trait. (Be the best you you can be, Anon!) I was just reconsidering my initial thought that the OP might not have had sex.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Also I don't personally care if you're a bit frigid. As I said above, I don't consider it to be a negative trait. (Be the best you you can be, Anon!)

Disgusting.

Backpedaling and being condescending and passive-aggressive like a pro.

I'm done with you lot.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Passive-aggressive

You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Also, refer to above comment before getting angry.

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Normal people do it. WHO CARES?! I'm reading about winged bishonen who shit gold and attend Hogwarts. Preferring them silent during sex is the LEAST outrageous thing going on here

Well, realistic touches to unrealistic things is what helps the suspension of disbelief. I mean, whether or not the realistic touch is talking during sex doesn't matter, I just am not a fan of this argument. It reminds me of "ITS FICTION WHO CARES" that happens if you point out a TV show had a character acting against something they did in the past that ruined the suspension of disbelief for me. Sure, you can mess with stuff for the fun of the story, but once people start noticing and being distracted because of the unrealistic elements, you have an issue.

But on topic: man, we should all really stop caring about whether or not it's okay that someone doesn't like awkward sex talk. It's a preference.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm having a problem even with the whole "normal" argument.

I don't like talking during sex. I've been having sex with my husband for six years, we know what we like and it works for us.

I had no idea this wasn't "normal".

(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, seriously. I hate when people start saying shit isn't normal just because they, personally, don't do it. I understand.

[identity profile] imascavenger.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a ridiculous assumption. Everyone has their own preferences, and everything also depends on context. Calling people frigid for not liking sex talk during fanfiction is a preference, and does not always equal what they are like IRL. Kindly sit down, please.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm only saying so because OP commented that realistic dirty talk is something "crass": def. without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity; gross; obtuse; stupid.

I didn't say everyone had to like it OR they're frigid, just that OP's choice of words leads me to believe he or she is either really misinformed about what sexual dialogue is actually like or is inherently uncomfortable with it.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
And if OP's uncomfortable with it, so what? They may simply not prefer it in their sex. That doesn't make them frigid or virginal; it just means they have different preferences about what goes in when they're in bed with someone, or when their favorite ships are in bed.

It's like... would you judge someone for exclusively preferring PIV sex in the missionary position? Some people are just really vanilla -- this is not something to make them feel ashamed of.

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-11-24 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
you are rude as fuck. i don't care if you don't ~~consider~~ it an insult, it FUCKING IS and it is absolutely ridiculous to call someone that just because they don't like dirty talk! and i'm saying that as someone who likes it a lot. just stfd please.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
copy/paste because I don't have time for this.

I'm only saying so because OP commented that realistic dirty talk is something "crass": def. without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity; gross; obtuse; stupid.

I didn't say everyone had to like it OR they're frigid, just that OP's choice of words leads me to believe he or she is either really misinformed about what sexual dialogue is actually like or is inherently uncomfortable with it.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
But you kept insisting it was the later.

At least other people brought up the possibility that the op has had the misfortune of only stumbling upon fics with bad sex-dialogue instead of immediately assuming that there is something wrong with the op.

[identity profile] sister-wife.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
>>frigid

oh

okay

Image

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Go to hell.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well fuck you very much. Wow.