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MTE. I'll never forget how the HP fandom treated Cho Chang.

Yeah, and the worst part was JKR sort of agreeing with them.

I always wondered if I was missing something, as I never got why Cho's behavior was that horrible.

How young and naive I was.

=/ I was always under the impression that it was because she started crying about her ex-boyfriend while she was kissing someone else. I know It'd bother me if a guy started crying while kissing me 'cause he was thinking of an ex, dead or not. I mean, yeah, it's sad and all... but there's a time and place for everything. I'm usually not one to say when people should or shouldn't burst into tears, but Cho doing it when she did was really...awkward.

If I'd been in Harry's shoes I would have seriously freaked out. And my self-esteem? Probably would have plummeted.

Ah, but did she do that on purpose? It's hard to control your crying after all.

Hard, but sometimes possible. I really don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I know I'd try really hard not to ever do what Cho did to Harry.

What the person I replied to said was really harsh, but s/he has a bit of a point. There's a time and place for everything, and sometimes people do need to control their urge to cry. For instance, say you get an a text from your boyfriend stating he's breaking up with you when you're about to start A meeting. You'd have to control yourself then.

I think when you're in the middle of kissing someone for the first time is a good moment to try to reign in the tears.

dude. her boyfriend was straight up murdered. I can understand why she would freak out while kissing someone for the first time since her boyfriend was killed (especially since she was kissing the guy who was with him when he died. I just felt bad for Cho tbh.)

Like I said, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but when I put myself into Harry's shoes I just know I'd be really freaked out.

I wish I could put myself into Cho's shoes, but I can't. I'm emotionally stunted, unfortunately (apathy issues), and have a hard time empathizing with people in certain situations (Cho's, for example). So my brain is thinking things like "they were only together for a little while" and "it was ages after Ced died so why freak out now?" and my heart is just not getting it. =/

I feel bad for Cho, I do, but since I can't really empathize with her I tend to sympathize more with Harry, since I can easily imagine myself in his place.

DA

Um, she found out her boyfriend was murdered a few months before that kiss. That's not exactly "ages". Also, Cho was at least dating Cedric before the Yule Ball when she was asked out by him. So that's more than six months since they were together.

And you have to remember, this isn't a break up or something more normal of Cedric and Cho parting ways. He was murdered. There's going to be more emotions built up because of that.

"it was ages after Ced died so why freak out now?"

well, the book wasn't told from Cho's point of view so the reader might assume she had done some "freaking out" off screen. iirc, it was mentioned in the fifth or sixth book that Cho seemed a lot less cheerful than she was before Cedric died and that she still appeared to be grieving so she clearly had some serious issues before she decided to mack on Harry

In regards to the "they were only together for a little while" thing, you don't have to be with someone for years to be deeply impacted by their death. My friend's boyfriend committed suicide a couple of years ago and she's still affected by it even though they were only together for a few months. She was never quite the same. Everyone grieves differently.

sa

definitely the fifth book, not sure why I thought it might be the sixth one.

Like I said, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but

SEE ICON.

'Nuff said.

lolol, this is definitely going in my gif collection. ilu Oprah

Enjoy. ;)

(http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/non_sum_lacerte/?action=view&current=intter.gif)

will do

It's supposed to be more like a toast though. Because i ship it. :)

Not necessarily. Your response is pretty much the typical small-minded response to un-sheep-like comments the majority of FS followers enjoy dishing out. *Shrugs* I've butted heads with lots of judgmental, self-righteous people on FS simply because I think about things differently. I don't have very high expectations of the people in this community, though, so I can't really say I'm upset or anything. Irritated, sure, but upset? Nah.

You're just like most everyone else here, after all. Quick to judge, hear/see what you want, and just itching to throw your patronizing moral standards at anyone who so much as deviates a centimeter from your perfect world-view.

lmao for days at you complaining about sheep-like behaviour and quick judgements and then making amazing mass generalisations in the same breath. oh you.

normally I'm all for calling out parroting, but fact is you were caught in an age old convention people use when they want to do something/are something unpleasant but are in denial/still want to look good/don't want to be called out.
See: 'I'm not racist, but' (no I am not comparing your comment to racism so don't bother).
You may as well own up to it. Your thought process is that of a jerk and you're aware of it. The end.

-_-" Right. For starters, my so-called "amazing mass generalizations" were made through both extensive observation and first-hand experience. If I say that most FS participants are judgmental, then that's based on my own experience with the community. Making "mass generalizations" and comparing you to others I've encountered in this community is vastly different.

And once again, you're hearing/seeing exactly what you want to.

you were caught in an age old convention people use when they want to do something/are something unpleasant but are in denial/still want to look good/don't want to be called out.

That? That's juvenile. You're completely eliminating circumstance and interpreting things the way you want to. Basically, you're taking anything that you can't understand or agree with and shoving it into a little box, regardless of whether or not it fits properly.

I already admitted that I might have come across jerk-like but that I was still trying to understand the situation from another perspective. Frankly, if anyone is the jerk here I'm going to have to say it's you.

nayrt

(Anonymous) - 2011-12-19 08:48 (UTC) - Expand

You have apathy issues and you expect me to feel sorry for you?

Yeah, well even though you didn't meant to sound like a jerk you did.

Also what kind of boyfriend breaks up with you via text? Doesn't seem like they'd be worth a cry. And they do it before a meeting? Do grown people do shit like that?

All I feel from you is attempted emotional manipulation and a superiority complex. Yes, I'm just like everyone else on this side you figured me out. Ps we're all out to get you. /sarcasm

Ha. Feel sorry for me? Right. Once again, you're only seeing/hearing what you want to, because apparently everyone in the world must want to be pitied. Has it ever crossed your mind that it's not sympathy I expect, but chance? That is, chance to get my point across without being attacked by dozens of others? Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about sympathy. I don't need people to "feel sorry for me", as you say. But I do expect people to allow me to explain myself before antagonizing, insulting, or attacking me, which has happened more times in this community than I can count.

Yeah, I have apathy issues. It's an unfortunate side-dish to Dysthymia. I didn't mention my emotional problems to garner "sympathy" or "pity" from anyone. I mentioned it to alleviate, if not completely deter, potential argument, which I understand my unusual thought process and emotional underdevelopment sometimes causes. THAT. IS. ALL. Perhaps you need to stop seeing bad intentions when there are none. Or maybe I shouldn't say that? Maybe I'm coming across too "pitiable" right now? Too desperate for attention and sympathy, right?

You know, I had a friend in high school who had Asperger's. He used to tell me about all of his "quirks", too, to prevent problems between us. When he told me that he had a hard time reading and understanding other people's emotions/motives/whathaveyou, I certainly didn't think "he must be emotionally manipulating me so I'd feel too sorry for him to call him out on saying something jerk-like". Like, seriously? Who the fuck does that? You sure I'm the one with the problems?

All I feel from you is attempted emotional manipulation and a superiority complex.

Either you're some kind of ~~crappy~~ psychologist or your view of the general human being is very, very low. Emotional manipulation? Why would I need to do something like that? Try sheer honesty with neutral intentions. And I don't even know where to start on the whole superiority complex thing. Just. What? I don't even.

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razycrandomgirl.livejournal.com - 2011-12-19 06:02 (UTC) - Expand

I'm not sure that makes it any easier though, but then I've never been in a situation that involves kissing and tears, so I don't know what that's like.

Like I said, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but

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nuff said