[ SECRET POST #1812 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1812 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 151 secrets from Secret Submission Post #259.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Disliking a female character is not about being a bad feminist, and I've personally never seen anyone who expressed a dislike for Babs being called a bad feminist for it. However, if you're announcing that you dislike a female character because you don't think she measures up to a male character (in this case, Robin) then maybe that's why the subject of feminism has been equated with your dislike.

Personally, I agree that Babs is my least favourite Batgirl. I like her in the animated series, and I enjoy her early adventures, but most of my experience with Batgirl in the comics is with either Cass of Steph. I'm more used to Babs as Oracle, and that's how I prefer her. But I have to admit, I'm a little taken aback by your reasons for disliking her as Batgirl. Cass became Batgirl during No Man's Land, a time of great need, because she wanted to fight the kind of crime she'd been raised to commit. Steph became Batgirl because Tim asked her not to be Spoiler anymore and Cass passed on the costume, and she became Spoiler because she wanted to foil her father's criminal plans. Babs became Batgirl because she wanted to fight crime, but due to her physical stature she was told she would never qualify to be a police officer, and could only hope for a desk job in law enforcement. How is Babs' reason so much worse than Cass and Steph's reasons? She was just as determined to fight crime in any way she could, the only difference is she actually tried to do so legally before turning to vigilantism.

Also, I've never read Babs as Batgirl being explicitly stated as "at Robin's level". They're both incredibly talented in their own ways, there's really no need to compare them. Hell, comparing any Batgirl to a Robin just doesn't work, because they're all so different. When it comes to fighting, there's probably no Robin that can keep up with Cass. Steph is probably the least experienced of the Batgirls and Robins (Damian may be younger, but he's literally been training since he was born). The Robins aren't crap fighters just because Cass is more skilled, and Steph isn't useless just because she has the least experience. Comparing them doesn't work, they all bring their own talents to their roles. And the same went for Barbara. She has gymnastics training, like you said, but I don't think anyone would call her on a level with Dick because nobody is at the same level as Dick. She's incredibly intelligent and has total memory recall. She was also quite a bit older than Dick when she was Batgirl (at least originally, I believe she's been deaged in the reboot) so while Dick may have had more experience crimefighting, she had more life experience. Yes, she was a librarian. She also became a politician at one point. She thinks differently to Dick, who thinks differently to Tim, who thinks differently to Steph, etc, etc.

And why does it matter that she's drop-dead gorgeous? All the Robins and Batgirls are hot.

[(Anonymous)]

okay, i honestly know nothing about comics and stuff but this was really great to read. just thought i'd let you know, anon!

[(Anonymous)]

Aww, thank you. I always end up tl;dr-ing all over DC secrets. XD

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[stella-down.livejournal.com]

this is a brilliant post.

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

this comment is great.

[cherrycoloured.livejournal.com]

A+ comment.

[dragonladyk.livejournal.com]

A huge thumbs up is all I can add to this.

DragonLady