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[case]

Since people pointed out Saturday isn't enough time to see what LJ is doing with this or about this, moved the potential moving date to New Years' - 1/1/2012.

[Poll #1805208]

The other poll is closed and this one will be open until Dec 31st! You can edit your vote by going here.

As a note, I'm completely willing to either stay or move. Updating the comm is easy enough for me either way.



1 - It's not only about subject lines. Others have written up potential problems better than I could:
http://lj-releases.livejournal.com/71858.html?thread=7005874#t7005874
http://lj-releases.livejournal.com/71858.html?thread=6261682#t6261682
http://lj-releases.livejournal.com/71858.html?thread=7952050#t7952050

2 - For those worried about possibly needing to make DW accounts to comment, if a move happens: you don't need one! OpenID will let you comment as an LJ user (in the same way Facebook users can comment on LJ).

3 - For those worried about missing updates: I can crosspost to LJ to let you know a post is up (with a handy link over to it), I don't mind that (it's like a minute of extra work, no problem) - if the DW move happens though, the comments would be over there.

4 - Apparently, this is what we're getting next year.

5 - I'm aware workarounds are available - but those (or so I hear?) won't stay available for long. Also, those layouts have their own bugs. If someone can actually supply me with workable code that doesn't make long threads unreadable to change the layout, I'll give it a try.

6 - raemia has an FAQ up here: http://raemia.livejournal.com/18347.html


7 - Tried the LJ workaround, give me your thoughts? Also contains links to what FS would look like on DW. Feedback on either/both?

8 - http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/811020.html?thread=511056908#t511056908 A good summary of the whole thing here by demarafis.


Today's post is up below!

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Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[demarafis]

*woah, didn't expect to be linked to the main post*

Corrections:
- See lj_releases for the list of bugs currently being worked on.
- DW's "Expand All" comments function is only available for paid members

Clarification on the S2 workaround and upcoming update:
Re-reading it now, I don't think I explained the S2 workaround situation well enough. Please read about it on raemia's page here

Something fic-writing people might like about DW:
- DW's maximum character limit for journal entries is 300,000. This means stories of up to ~50,000 words can be posted to DW without breaking it into parts.

Some people have voiced concerns about DW. However, I'm not aware of these concerns. I'd appreciate it if people can link to examples so I can be informed of your concerns. Thank you.

Re: Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[(Anonymous)]

Additional notes:

- DW now has a flat link on every post, though that's probably not too useful for F!S.

- "Expand All" is also available on paid comms for everyone, even anons.

- Basic accounts get 30 icons, paid get 100.

- Basic information for the curious (http://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=121)

- Crossposting doesn't require any effort beyond a couple minutes of setup and clicking a single checkbox each time you post. Therefore, this comm could easily crosspost and be in both places at once. Not only that, but importing can be done at regular intervals. The importer recognizes posts and comments that are old and does not reimport them, only bringing in the new. It does not override posts or comments made on the DW end. Comments added to the LJ version of a post are merged with comments made on the identical DW version, using OpenID so you can continue to have control over your comments after they are imported.

tl;dr - I was just trying to point out that crossposting could make it unnecessary to have this poll at all, as BOTH sides could get exactly what they want - F!S posts with comments open to them. (Assuming crossposting for comms will work the same as for journals, which I seriously hope it will.)



I started out on OpenID for a while and then got a journal because I wanted to be more a part of the community at DW. A lot of what happens there right now is more on flists than in comms, but there are some exceptions.

Re: Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[case]

Crossposting means double the work for me, though - crossposting is easy, but setting up the comments and keeping track of things on two posts is much more work than just updating the LJ comm with a link to the DW one or something like that.

Re: Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, I'd forgotten about setting up the comments. Sorry about that! I would never want to create more work for you, when you do so much already.

I'll just go back to thinking, like a bear with a very small brain.

Re: Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[(Anonymous)]

I can definitely see moderating two sets of comments as an unreasonabke workload, but would you actually have to set up the comments twice if there's this 'import comments' thing? Surely you'd just set them up once, then click 'import'?

But moderating two sets would be horrible, unless you could find a trusty sidekick.

Re: Ugh, corrections that should have been caught if preview was available, and some additions

[firelement85.livejournal.com]

It needs to be one or the other, LJ or DW, because if half the people are here and the other half there it will ruin discussion. Comments can be imported but my understanding is that they only import when you tell DW to do it. I make a comment here, it doesn't all of a sudden show up at DW. Every day techno could import comments and then they would transfer but why do that.

Posting here with a link to the actual DW post is enough.