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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-25 03:24 pm

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(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never understood how pills can fix depression since the problem(s) which causes the depression cannot be fixed by pills.

Either way, I'm happy for you and if the pills eases your depression.

[identity profile] xelestri.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Because, in some cases, wouldn't it be a physical thing, and the pills help with that? (i.e. a chemical imbalance in the brain or something that leads to a person feeling depressed more than normal)

[identity profile] netbug009.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Not all aspects of depression are just "I have this issue that makes me sad." Depression can be an illness with physical problems.

I mean, just one example: Fatigue. Depression can make people extremely tired, so they can't get things done that most "normal/healthy" people can handle. This is turn ends up making a depressed person - who is also dealing with being very critical of themselves - even MORE depressed and it ends up cycling.

Not to mention a lot of times people with depression will feel low/sad whether they have a good reason or not. People ask me all the time why I feel sad on a given day and while I do have some legitimate issues at times, often the answer genuinely is "I don't know."

I'm sorry if I'm rambling. I'm just saying there's more to depression than what you're implying. You may want to look up some information sometime. ^^

[identity profile] helenadax.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Because if you are depressed for a long time, the chemistry in your brain changes. If you're lucky, pills will help your brain to go back to the right chemical balance.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
that's not necessarily true. depression isn't always sourced from a specific problem. there are many theories that state depression may be hereditary or caused by chemical imbalance, not always some kind of life-altering event. it runs in my family but my dad also died when i was young, so i can't be sure as to the exact cause, but i've been on medication for about five years and it's helped me a lot. so i wouldn't generalize like that.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you understand how depression works. For many people it's not (completely) a matter of bad things happening in one's life, but a matter of screwed up brain chemistry. It's a disorder like any other, it just happens to be in the cranium instead of the heart or hands.

[identity profile] xelestri.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Sometimes there's not really anything that actually causes the depression in terms of events, but a person can still feel depressed anyway.

I know when I battled depression a long time ago, there would frequently be absolutely nothing wrong, but I was still overwhelmingly depressed for no reason.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
And then you feel like a bad person for being depressed despite having a good life. It sucks.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I have a hormone imbalance which not only causes my mood to plummet very easily into depression, but gives me great acne on my face and boils around parts of my body I would rather not mention. (Yaaaaaay. *slams head against wall*)Even something as simple as Birth Control pills do a world of good on evening me out, and get rid of all the horrible acne/boils.

Which sucks, because I have to take it every day. I am starting to look for some alternative that I won't have to be on for the rest of my life (unless I get knocked up... which unless I get really drunk and forget my pills, isn't going to happen any time soon).

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you considered a Nuvaring? It's what I have--saves on the remembering.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is a cool idea, but I am kinda distrustful of any long-term solution that is new. My mom was given a bunch of new meds to help her epilepsy as a kid which has since affected other areas of her health now, so I grew up with a 'Don't trust until it's been out a decade and effects are documented' mantra.

I think I will look into it though.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you change it out every month, so you'd have a trial month to see what's what. Think of it more like a once a month pill.

That goes somewhere else.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think being on pills every day is a small price to pay for your health. It takes like two seconds of your day. I mean, BC isn't even expensive. Talk to me when your pills are costing $150/mo...

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's more that I grew up in a house with a Hippy mom who was negatively affected by having to take consistent meds as a kid and instiled in me a healthy distrust of pills. When we got a cold, we were given Echinacea Tea and capsules and lots of soup. We will take meds and go to a doctor if the problem is bad (thus me going to the doctor about the boils), but it just makes me uncomfortable to have to depend on constant pill doses when there might be unknown long-term effects and a healthier, more natural solution might be out there. And since my status was never life threatening (I was lucky to not tip into suicidal thoughts or behavior), it feels like there should be another option.

But if this is the only way, then I will easily deal with it and force myself to remember to pick up my subscription on time (my biggest issue, darn my scatter-brained-ness). It's just a 'if there is a better option, I would really like that.'

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the Pill has changed my life. I think I'll be coming off the anti-depressants soon, but I don't think I want to come off the Pill ever. Plus, I only have to have a period ever 4 months!

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine is a bit different as I get a period every month, but it only lasts three days and it is WONDERFUL. (Seriously, I used to get everything- mega cramps, bloating, exhaustion, ugh. Now? Minor cramps for a day rather than four.)

...TMI? Ah well, screw it.

Really, I am just grateful that I don't struggle with acne anymore at my age ('it will go away around collge', they said...feh.) and I don't feel the need to cry every day! d(^_^)>

[identity profile] damnated.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily.

A couple years ago I got diagnosed with clinical depression by a Psychiatrist, and, surprise surprise, I had no MAJOR LIFE ISSUES/PROBLEMS behind it. It was, as far as I was told (to more detail, but I honestly can not remember right now) it was a chemical issue in my brain. Pills were very helpful and made me feel better. :)
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to piggyback on this comment, sometimes the symptoms of depression aren't as simple as feelings of sadness or despair, either. Sometimes it's more like just feeling... nothing. Or losing interest in things you used to love doing (like writing or drawing).

I'm bipolar and ever since I moved to this crappy state I lost access to the Lamictal I was taking. I've been surprisingly "normal" mood-wise, only one major manic episode in over a year and I don't feel depressed, but I've also been totally unable to draw or do anything creative which is very unusual for me. I just don't have any interest in it anymore.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
This was sort of what happened to me. I was apathetic toward pretty much everything. First it was stuff I actively disliked, then stuff I liked, then basic functions like eating. I just...couldn't bring myself to do anything.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That pretty much sums up how I used to feel a few years back. I would spend pretty much all my time in bed and only dragged myself out for work because I couldn't bring myself to give a shit about anything. I never hit the "skipping basic functions" stage, so I managed to pull myself out without meds. I never thought of it as depression at the time, though. Just... apathy.

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[identity profile] fireholly.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
If you think that 1) depression is sadness or 2) depression is caused by actual things, you have never had depression.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Fucking brain chemistry, how does it work

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
It makes as much sense to say "I don't understand how pills can take away pain that comes from dropping a hammer on your toe, when the pills can't rewind time and pull your toe out of the way."

Depressive reactions to life events are neither healthy, nor are they necessary. Some people will experience a romantic breakup and they'll think "Damn, this hurts. I'm lonely and I miss my ex and everything seems to remind me of them." That's a realistic reaction to a hurtful life event. Other people, however, will have a depressive reaction that's more like, "Oh God, this pain is going to go on forever. I will never find anyone else to be with in my life, and life will never again be as good as it was. I must be an awful person if X broke up with me and no one will ever want me." That's an unrealistic, depressive reaction.

If you don't see the difference between the two, or can't imagine how medication could possibly help a hurting person think clearly enough to realize the inaccuracy of their depressive thoughts and replace them with more realistic thoughts, I'm afraid it's mostly a sign of your prejudice against medication.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-26 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Then you're a motherfucking idiot. Depression depends hugely on neurochemistry. Fixing imbalances can make a huge difference.

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2011-12-26 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. There's too few serotonin uptake receptors.