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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-02 12:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #1826 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1826 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early because New Year's stuff to do. (:

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-02 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish that shows that do portray characters with Downs wouldn't always choose to go the "usually cheerful, nice and independent person, just like you and me, and btw yes, we do imply that all people with Downs are exactly like this" route. My brother's on the other end of the scale and god, it annoys me so much when all I see on TV is something my family will never have, and that what the audience sees is implied to be the norm with Downs people. It isn't.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-02 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
God, I envy you. I have to deal with my asshole-ish and clingy family members because they are normal people. If you've got an unpleasant and clingy brother then you can dump him in a home and walk away clean. It's an upside of having a 'tard as a relative, asylums and loony bins can take care of them for you. Just get your 'rents to dump him in one and tell everyone "they tried so hard", most folks'll still treat you all like saints.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of want to punch you in the face for this comment.

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-03 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
...Can't tell if trolling or just an asshole.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
For what reason can it not be both?

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-03 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Good point. I blame that pesky "faith in humanity" business =P

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK... maybe I'm just projecting because the comment they were replying to really rubbed me the wrong way, but I read it as facetious dead baby comedy more than anything else. The language is over-the-top offensive, but what they're saying is basically true- disabled people, especially those of us with developmental or psychiatric disabilities are frequently portrayed as nothing but burdensome and our family members are lionized for putting up with us. And warehousing of the kind they describe, while fortunately rarer now than in the past, still happens.

I'm no more interested in flat caricatures of disabled characters as perfect little angels than anyone else, but there's already more than enough stigma out there without the kind of accentuate-the-negative portrayal that the other commenter seemed to be calling for. Greater diversity in the kinds of disabled characters 'allowed' to be shown on TV is a commendable goal, but it needs to be done with respect for the characters themselves, not just for how they affect their families.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
'tard was pushing it but you really fell into Try Hard Junction with 'rents. the only people who ever use 'rents are 40 year olds trying to write what they imagine a cool 14 year old would say. And your efforts weren't even for anything funny, so it looks like you're going straight from Try Hard to Fail City.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know her name but the downs character in American Horror Story is not usually cheerful, she's in a pretty abusive situation and acts accordingly (frustrated tantrums and such) they also show her limitations pretty clearly.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I do agree with this. I think by showing them being 100% nice, you are missing the real struggles that come with the limitation. One of my co-workers suffers from Downs Syndrome, and although he is generally cheerful I feel the constant need to bite my tongue around him as he has no concept of being in a work place or of wanting to truly help his co-workers. He takes constant breaks, will only do the jobs he likes (leaving the worst of things to everyone else), and there is this constant tension between us and his coworkers of how much should we say and confront him on because of his condition.

I know that not all people with Down Syndrome are like this, but I think the media belittles the families that struggle with dealing with things like that constantly by making it seem like it's 'no big deal.' It is a big deal, for a lot of people. You shouldn't hate or belittle people because of it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make things harder.

Every time he calls his mom and demands dinner at 35 years old, I feel myself wince because I can see how horrible of a situation it is all around.