[ SECRET POST #1830 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1830 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Masterchef Australia]


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03.
[Grimm]


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04.
[Cracked.com]


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05.
[Stargate Universe]


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06.
[Skulduggery Pleasant]


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07.
[Young Justice]


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08.
[Chobits]


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09.
[Sailor Moon, Howard Stern]


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10.
[The Wonder Years/How I Met Your Mother]


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11.
[Community]


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12.
[Homestuck]


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13.
[Nutcracker, Motion Picture]


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14.
[David Archuleta]


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15.
[Love Actually]


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17.
[itskingsleybitch]


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18. [repeat]


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19.
[FFVII]


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20.
[Shake it Up/Bones]


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21.
[Sherlock Series 1]


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22.
[Pokemon]


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23. [repeat]


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24.
[Hatoful Boyfriend]


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25.
[Wonder Woman]


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26.
[James Deen]


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27.
[The Iron Giant]


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28.
[Code Geass]


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29.
[Code Geass]


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30.
[Code Geass]


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31.
[Code Geass]


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32. [SPOILERS for Dead Rising 2: Off The Record]



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33. [SPOILERS for Skyrim]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for mentions of rape]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #261.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[visp.livejournal.com]

that rape (and that character) is based off a real girl that steig larsson knew; he witnessed her rape and didn't do a damn thing to stop it, and then later felt ~so bad~ he wrote these books as some kind of weird cathartic penance, knowing FULL WELL that girl was still alive to see his fame and success as he wrote about a rape that he failed to stop.

Not really. A girl was raped, that's about where the similarity ends. Writing a book that (while it's not perfect) had the message: "life still sucks for women, misogyny and sexual violence are still rampant and society almost always sides with the rapist instead of the woman," has value.

And unless you've never froze in a violent and horrifying situation, especially when you weren't even in high school yet, you might want to be less judgmental.

[(Anonymous)]

da

welllll, he did name Lisbeth after the woman he saw get gang raped irl...

[(Anonymous)]

No, he didn't. The name has nothing to do with her. I don't know where people get this information.

[noforcenosound.livejournal.com]

I don't feel like being "less judgemental" to rape enablers.

[(Anonymous)]

Man... Rape fantasy =/= rape enabling

[(Anonymous)]

Read the thread

She's not talking about people with rape fantasies, she's talking about a guy who literally stood by and watched as his friends gangraped a girl.

Make all the shitty arguments about peer pressure you want, that's straight up shitty and rape-enabling

[(Anonymous)]

So you have a problem with the author of a book and direct that at people who watch the movie? What?

[(Anonymous)]

Lol

Get some reading comprehension, please.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, that is what happened if you read the very fist post noforcenosound posted.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, wasn't he a kid when it happened? How do you call a kid a rape enabler? Or are all males, regardless of age or training, supposed to be strong powerful capable people who are always as clear-minded and badass as James Bond and can launch themselves into a gangrape and beat up everyone, or have the presence of mind to call for help because they can somehow read minds and know whether the gang rapists are going to kill them for snitching?

[noforcenosound.livejournal.com]

I wasn't talking about the OP. The OP is fine. I was talking about Steig Larsson and the poke at "freezing up"

[(Anonymous)]

He named the main character after the girl whose rape he witnessed.

Also, shortly after the rape, he went to her house and asked for her forgiveness for not doing anything.

IIRC she refused to give it. Which just makes it even shittier that he then went on to write those books featuring a character with her name.

[(Anonymous)]

NA

By the accounts I've read, she did refuse to forgive him. I think he went on to write these books and put the word out about rape and the sexual abuse of women to assuage his own guilt, nothing more (though of course they were published after his death, so as far as I know he never intended to profit from them). It's one of the reasons why I've refused to read/watch this series; I feel like someone out there is profiting off of the real Lisbeth's rape, and that bothers me to no end.

[(Anonymous)]

Could you provide the direct quote in which Larsson says he wrote this to assuage his own guilt and nothing more?

I don't see Lisbeth Salander as a victim. She is a survivor and tough as hell and I think she is one of the strongest female characters I've encountered. I think that's really important to remember.

Also as a poster said he was 15 at the time of witnessing the rape. Yes, he was still a child. I would like people to think about what they were like when they were 15 and think honestly what they would have done. I would have been scared out of my fucking mind to see that. I'm not sure I would have jumped in at that point either. And I am a person who, as a rape survivor, is passionate about these issues.

People get a profit out of making media based on tragic real life events all the time. But I am sure you watch none of those, ever, based on this logic.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, let's not be 'judgemental'[about the only moral fault left on the planet, it seems] that a man failed to do ANYTHING to stop a woman being raped (hardly the work of a moment). god forbid that any man be made to feel bad for that. Could happen to anyone, right?

I'm going to judge him. He's a bastard rape-enabler who then made capital out of his "guilt" - cry moar, mate.

There.

What a supremely idiotic thing for you to say.

[visp.livejournal.com]

What he did at age 15 was wrong. But are you at all familiar with Milgram's experiments? People don't always jump up and do the right thing. Just because you feel like talking tough over the internet doesn't mean you would have either.

And then, decades later, he wrote some books. He didn't make any money from them, they were published posthumously. So for someone who thinks they know enough about this situation to have an opinion on it, you're pretty idiotic yourselt.