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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-08 04:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #1832 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-01-08 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
06. http://i.imgur.com/Pil7v.png

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. You go there, see the reality, come back still liking the place and remembering it fondly, ergo you are not a weeaboo. 4 years later you still feel the same, ergo... you are a weeaboo? Wha?

[identity profile] smittenlotus.livejournal.com 2012-01-08 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
So you were smitten by a pretty interesting place. That doesn't sound so weird. Maybe you could pack up and move there permanently someday? I have a friend who lived in Japan for a few months and she loved it so much she's planning to become a dialogue translator.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. You thought you weren't a weeaboo because you loved the real Japan, and now you think you are because... you still love the real Japan?

The crying thing seems like an overreaction, no offense, but I'm having trouble seeing where it means "I want to go back to magical anime land."

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Rephrase this please, OP. Doesn't make any sense.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I lived in japan for half a year and I really enjoyed it, even with the ups and downs. For a few months after I ached because I missed it so much.

Sometimes I still dream of it. I'd like to go back someday but I don't think that makes anyone a weeaboo. You'd be an otaku if all you cared about were the animez and whatnot.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it that I always hear about host families in Japan being dicks? I swear I have like three different friends who all say their host families were horrible, one even had to change her first one. :S

Anyway, OP, you're not a weeaboo. Weeaboo are people who fetisize Japan and anything Japanese without actually having first-hand experience/knowledge.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I was with a host family in Japan, and of the roughly 12 people who were with the same program in the time I was there, there was 1 who had a problem with his host family and had to be moved - and I will bet money that that was more because of him than because of his host family, because he was such an otaku it was embarrassing, and apparently he became enraged and wanted to change families because his host mother threw out an opened crisps packet she found under the desk in his room.
Anyway, I meant to say: small sample sizes disguise the different experiences, I guess. Also, maybe the cultural differences are less disrupting depending on the origins of the guest, which might cause less friction.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I liked both of the host families I had when I was there. But really it's easy to have rough patches in situations like this. Different cultures have very different views of hospitality and different expectations of guests, as well as just general cultural differences that can lead to frustration that can lead to either party seeming douchey.

Did your friends hate all the members of their host families? In some cases, I think there are issues when one family member wants to host but others don't, and the others end up acting rude. My brother was a little rude when my family hosted a delegate from Japan. :/ (He wasn't outright mean to her or anything but he ignored her a lot and refused to participate in any activities.)

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
One factor might be that Japanese people do just tend to respond to certain things in a totally different way than Westerners. I had a lovely time with my first host family nine years ago, and most of the people I knew who were in my program had a lovely time... but looking back, I realize that we all also had the benefit of not having any real problems otherwise.

I recently had to stay with another Japanese family for a few days because of some let's just say difficulties, and they tried really really hard to help! ...but their approach to hard times is completely different, much more pragmatic and not at all equipped to deal with emotional fallout, and it ended up making me feel a lot worse.

ETA: Also, even with my lovely original host family, they could be pretty insensitive because sensitivity is just not a thing here. My host mom called me fat a couple times and didn't get why that would be a problem.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
I did not have a great time with my host family when I went over, to the point where I chose to stay in a dorm when I went back.

This was through no fault of theirs, nor was it severe, but it was because I was 16 and stupid.

[identity profile] santagrover.livejournal.com 2012-01-08 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
you are not a weeaboo for loving a city wtf

[identity profile] violence4.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this! Especially as you've actually experienced living there.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I already know I'm going to be horribly 'homesick' for London when I go back to the States after my year here. Sometimes you just fall in love with a place, and it leaves its mark on you forever.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-08 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's normal to like a place still even though you had some bad experiences with people there. Tokyo is quite unique and has lots of places and services that can really only be found there. Or places that are imitated elsewhere, but it's just not the same. I don't think this makes you a weeaboo, but I admit that crying whenever you see it mentioned is a little strange.
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[personal profile] solarbird 2012-01-08 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel exactly the same way, only for Yokohama. Only with less weeaboo guilt. Relax, sometimes you fall in love with a place. It's okay to want to go back.

[identity profile] deadtree.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
it's possible to fall in love with a place. Even if that does make one a weeaboo, who cares? Osaka will always be a place that I remember fondly and sometimes with great longing. If that makes me a weeaboo, oh well.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
People are way too obsessed with trying to define what a weeaboo is and proving that they aren't one. As long as you're not stalking anyone, saying people need to die because they hate your favorite pairing, claiming to be "Japanese on the inside", growing obsessed to the point of your life being ruined, attacking people at cons, or having loud public conversations about what kind of hentai you like... who cares?

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I love how liking any other places = okay fair enough. Not hating Japan = weeeaboo omg

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't make you a weeaboo if you genuinely like the country itself and not just because it's the land where anime comes from.

I was in Japan for a few months learning Japanese, and yeah I loved that I was only two stops from Akihabara and that I knew where to get good doujinshi, but that's not why I miss the country so much. I really do want to go back someday, hopefully for good.

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[identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I miss Japan as well and I call the city I lived in "my city" still, even thought it's been over three years since I was there. It was one of the best places I've lived and the one I felt most comfortable and happy in.

Don't feel bad for missing a place you fell in love with.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
God, I feel you. I was only there a couple months (though admittedly I had a fantastic time) and I still get pangs of wanting to go back to Tokyo.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-09 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I know how you feel anon, I feel exactly the same way about Prague. A city I was heartbroken to leave when the time came.

[identity profile] vongroovy.livejournal.com 2012-01-09 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been living in Tokyo for nearly three years and am leaving Japan in three weeks, and I'm completely devastated about it. It's not a perfect place, but it's a place I've been happier than ever before, where I've had the most amazing experiences and met the best people. I know this place better than the city I grew up in. For practical job and money reasons, it's the right choice for me to leave now, but I know I'm leaving part of my heart behind and I know I'll always miss it. But that just seems a normal thing, to miss a place you've lived and loved. Nothing to do with otaku stuff or trying to be Japanese, so not weeabooish! I mean, you could feel this way about anywhere. For you and me, it happens to be Tokyo, but plenty of other people have the same experience as you with different places. Don't worry about it so much! Loving Japan isn't automatically a bad thing.