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Don't feel like a loser. With the economies of many countries in the shitter right now, the "expected" age to be out on your own has just gone out the window. There's a rising number of people forced to move back in with their relatives because their lives have financially gone to hell in a jet-powered handbasket. I'm not denying it sucks, but it doesn't make you a loser or a waste of space. Times are tough right now for a lot of people.

Pretty much came here to say this. I was in a career counseling class yesterday when we talked about how the notion of starting a career and building up on it no longer applies to today's economy when no one has any form of job safety or a guaranty to move up the ladder. Going back to school is what makes you not a loser. Even if you still don't make money out of the knowledge you gain you still become smarter.

Going back to school is what makes you not a loser. Even if you still don't make money out of the knowledge you gain you still become smarter.

I agree with this to a point in that you aren't a loser if you go back to school. But after reading all these horror stories about people who got screwed over by student loans and ended up with degrees that were little more than a $50,000+ piece of toilet paper as far as the job market is concerned, I can understand why so many are hesitant to go back.

Well it really depends what school you're going to and what you're studying. I work with this lady who is getting her "Master's" in HR Management (or something along those lines) at the University of Phoenix (one of those fly-by-night for-profit schools) and has tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt and hasn't even finished yet. And she's so sure she's going to get a job that pays decently enough.

On the other hand, you can take classes at a community college that teach you job-related skills like C++ or how to use Microsoft Office Suite or that train you for specific careers like Paralegal or Business Administration, and it's relatively cheap compared to a four-year program. I don't know exactly how employable that can make you but I work in an HR office and I see a lot of people in positions making $30,000/yr + benefits that have little more than a GED and an associate's degree (sometimes their transcript reflects only a few courses, so they haven't even earned an associate's degree yet). They aren't making tons of money but they have job security and a decent wage

Also, I'm convinced at this point that MBAs are basically worthless yet people keep scrambling to get them, almost every school has an MBA program, too

Yeah, first two things to check when school-shopping is whether the school is even accredited (a lot of these for-profit schools like Strayer and Phoenix aren't), and what the industry you're trying to get into thinks of the school you have your eye on.

Right now I'm looking into certificates for A+ and Network+, because I already have a BA from a state university. Certificates will help me get more than part-time retail way more than a master's will.

I'm in the same exact boat right now. I have a BA in history from a state university in my home state, and I'm trying to decide between two different paralegal certificate programs here in Austin. One is ABA-approved and the other isn't, but I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anyone as to whether or not the ABA approval is worth the extra $3000 cost (from what I can surmise, it's better to go with the ABA-approved program if you ever plan on moving to another state and finding work as a paralegal there). The non ABA-approved program is at the local community college and their website says that they place a heavy emphasis on job placement in the program, but basically I'm wary of investing my money in anything right now. If I do go back to school I'm going to save up at least half of the tuition price before I even attend because I really don't feel like adding to my existing student loan debt, and really I'm skeptical of spending my money on education of any kind at this point

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Ugh I can't even delete my comments anymore, much less edit them, what the fuck

Anyway I was going to add that CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS SEEM TO BE THE WAY TO GO all around -- you don't invest as much money as you would in a Master's and the emphasis is on specific job-related skills. And employers actually specify that they are looking for people with certain certifications in job listings, rather than someone with any kind of degree

Exactly. Everyone in my desired field (information technology/security) is looking for CompTIA A+ certification at the bare minimum (if you don't have it, your app goes straight to the round file). Network+ and Security+ are what actually make you stand out.

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This x1000. I have been at uni for 2 years and only just found out that y degree is worthless unless I major in Japanese (which could get me a job as a teacher overseas) or tourism (which is apparently struggling to find people to fill positions). So yeah, it was pretty disheartening learning that some of my friends who graduated are now stuck with a piece of paper that means nothing and an education that is seen as worthless by the industries they are interested in becoming a part of.

There are no careers anymore, only jobs.

Also, nowadays the average person doesn't stay in the same career for life anyway. I can't remember what the average number of different "careers" a person has in a lifetime is right off hand, but I think I remembered it being something like SEVEN which is incomprehensible to me

Head like a fucking orange.

I feel like this sometimes, like a "disappointment". And like you, I'm mostly happy, but my big problem is that I feel like other people (and not just the dumb ones, but my family and friends I care about) don't understand my life, or think I could have been more successful, or something. Not that they're judging me, exactly, but that they don't understand (and are maybe judging me a little). Mostly I just try not to worry about it, and make improvements in my life where I can (like you), but it's not always easy.

Anyway, glad you've got a fandom to make you happy. Always helps get me through the day!

I feel the same way. I've always been fairly intelligent and school and university was a breeze for me, but I've never been an overly motivated person and my grades were often average-at-best because I couldn't be bothered doing the required work to get better grades. Now I have an OK job and am reasonably happy with it, but I'll sometimes get the feeling that I've let my family down by not doing better in school when I know I could have, or not trying harder to get a better job. I often get the feeling that they wish I had a better job, or that I had better grades in school, or that I lived in a better house, etc.

It's...depressing, to say the least. :-(

Hey there OP, I sometimes thik that dealing with the sense that i am a disappointment is what it means to be grown up! Haha. It's not what i would have xpected, but it's not terrible. And I love that you are enjoying these three dudes. Karl Pilkingtom is some kind of mystic sage, I swear, his kind just... he sees the world in a very unique and awesome way, I think.nanyway, high fives, and hope things start to turn around for you financially.

Three years ago I could have submitted almost this exact secret. But since then thanks to *my* fandom, I got a (slightly) better job and I moved into my own place. I still sometimes feel like a loser but I'm also happier than I've ever been in my entire life. So even if you have to live in a shack, I advise you to get out ASAP.

Wow, what fandom is this, if you don't mind disclosing? Is the job someone related to fandom or did you just land the job through personal connections you made in your fandom?

Yeah, that comment probably made the OP feel even shittier. WTG. Not everybody gets new jobs via fandom and they already said they can't afford to move out. Going to school probably magnifies their bills too.

OP -- just focus on the positives in your life, ok? Things are bound to get better. At least you're working towards improving yourself and your situation and think in the longterm not the short-term. It might seem loserly or whatever to live with your folks but if you do it for now will it help you achieve your goals for the future? If it does suck it up and deal for now. Good luck!

If you needed fandom to help you get a job, you're worse than the OP.

Dude, I live with my mother-in-law. It fucking sucks. I mean, I have a job, and it's even one that I enjoy (even though it doesn't pay well, and it's temporary so there's no guarantee I'll be employed after October of this year) and I've been doing a pretty good job of saving money but other than that my life is pile of shit right now. I feel you.

With your mother-in-law? Ouch.

You have my deepest condolences. Have strength.

I moved from my home country for more job opportunities, and I learn I have a bunch of new certificates to get and classes to take before I can even be considered in an interview. Even the entry-level jobs pass me by because I don't have the same accent they do even though I have a visa that allows me to legally work.

TL;DR - I feel your pain.

Someone who makes efforts to lose weight, advance their studies, expand their opportunities and make a living does not sound like a loser to me. So what if you still live with your folks? This is a very West-centrist thinking and according to many Americans' standards people in Latin America, South Asia, Eastern Europe, the Mediterranean and Middle East are ~pathetic loser~

No worries, OP. I have a certificate from college and two years of university (LONG story), and can't find work to save my life (I had a job and then was let go due to no fault of my own). I live with my boyfriend, and my mother never misses a moment to tell me how I should go back to school and learn to support myself properly, because I'm pretty much a "kept woman" (basically, she's implying I'm exchanging sex for my boyfriend's looking after me). Never mind that she was the one who forced me into university (despite my pleading that I preferred college and had always struggled with university-type courses), then basically threw me out, cut me off once I was dismissed (again, LONG story) and didn't speak to me for a year (then simpered over my brother once he found out he was in danger of being expelled from college in his first semester because he preferred to get high every morning and drunk on the weekends rather than study).

tl;dr: Don't worry about it. You're not the only one going through rough times! *Supportive fist bump*

I have never related to a secret so much in my life

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