[ SECRET POST #1848 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1848 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 63 secrets from Secret Submission Post #264.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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Comments

[meadowphoenix]

L O L.

If a male OP was talking about how attracted he was to some dangerous but alluring insane bitch character in some male-oriented escapism, they'd all take it for granted that he knows she's a bitch and just thinks she's hot and the stuff she does is sexy

I find it ridiculously hilarious that you decided people were making such offensive stereotypes that the only way to show them they were wrong was to make another over-generalized stereotype.

Here's the thing. People aren't telling her what to like; they're telling her that she's dumb for liking them. And as rude as that is, it's perfectly within their rights to say so. That's not actually sexist (just judgmental). Your response however is, considering that you asserted as if fact that people would behave differently if it were a male (I'll go with you ignoring that fact that women like that are rarely in male escapist fantasies, unless the male is equally powerful. And that when women like that are in the media, they are implicitly or explicitly deigned as psycho). The receipts, please?

Secondly, her secret is pretty equivocal. She says she's read the criticism and thinks abusive behaviors aren't okay. She never says she thinks the behaviors evidenced in Twilight are abusive. To me, she pretty much says, saying they're abusive is taking it much too seriously. She ignores the fact that something can be subjectively romantic, while still being objectively abusive. I do in fact find that kind of thinking dumb and very much missing the point.

Furthermore, I don't think that people are saying escapist fantasies like Twilight will 100% turn in to abusive relationships in real life. I think people are aware however, that while you might not measure up everyone you meet to your fantasy, if given the chance to have it, the majority of people will take it and get so wrapped up in it, they will ignore warning signs, male or female. There also the issue of how there is societal pressure to conform to your gender. When so many girls like Twilight, you're going to have other girls trying to like it too, so that they can relate. If they don't like it, they're likely to wonder if they should like it. This wouldn't be an issue if Twlight-esque escapist fantasies weren't 50 times are prevalent as other escapist fantasies from a female perspective. Twilight came out before the Hunger Games series, and up until that point, there were very few Hunger Game like books anywhere near the popularity of Twilight. Seeing Twilight as an sign of our culture isn't unfounded.