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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-24 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1848 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1848 ⌋


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[identity profile] creeperx.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite the majority's negative response, I actually think you have several good points there... though you could have worded them better with a less insulting tone.

I wouldn't say I hate het in particular but I actually really hate most of the CANON romance (and they pretty much all happen to be het). That's because as soon as female character is introduced in a movie/game/whatever you know she's only going to be a love interest. I hate how it has become a trend to add at least one hot female who's of course going to be the main character's girlfriend (or other way around if the main character is female). It's like there just can't be a strong female without the romantic sub-plot... which is usually total shit and feels only forced. Too often the romance is BADLY developed and happens in like, what, 3 hours (or in 5 seconds in children's cartoons) and they know it's meant to be. Not to mention the annoying implied message that you're a loser if you don't get the guy (or the girl). Like it's the ONLY way for happiness to find that member of opposite sex and be a couple.

And I agree what you said about the subtext. Indeed, if Watson (or Holmes) in the new Sherlock Holmes movie was a girl, everyone would be talking that there's like totally a romance going on in there and it's totally canon.

I'm also not the biggest fan of femmebots in TF because as soon as they were introduced, they brought a bunch of our gender stereotypes to a race which shouln't give a crap about them. Like, as soon as you have females you totally have to put some romance in there. They are freaking non-organic robots who should have no need for gender!!! I personally found the idea of them being all the same (i.e. genderless) much more fascinating and realistic. Of course we associate them to be males because of the voices but the fact remains that if there's not that "another" in their race, then it's technically genderless. That seems to be hard for us to comprehend since in our culture gender and sex matter hell of a lot. Obviously too hard since female characters were suddenly needed because otherwise it would be sexist. I wouldn't have minded it that much if it was more aesthetic like a different kind of design but no, as soon as there are females we also just HAVE to bring the same freaking stereotypes as in our race. I personally think it would have been a lot better if the "females" would have been kicking ass just as much as the "males" and without any of those usual streotypes attached to a particular gender and their interaction. Luckily some of the newer series have explored gender and females a lot better. Didn't like TFA's Blackarachnia though for the exact reasons I have stated. She was this usual seductress stereotype who uses her sex appeal to get all the male bots have a hard on. Geez, for robots these guys do have rather impressive libido. Of course, it's been argued that transformers as a very social species could get on to this stuff "just because" but it's funny how they too need an obvious opposite sex.
So.... I guess you can understand my views on this? It's not because of the "Eww, go away from my boys-only club" but because of the way HOW females are introduced and how them being there doesn't really make that much sense. To me at least. I do realize the creators of the show probably don't gve a rats ass about how alien species work and just aim to please the main audience (i.e. young boys), but from fandoms viewpoint, these things aren't that one-sided.

When it comes to your other points about het pairings making everyone OOC... I would have to disagree. Het pairings are no worse or better than slash (except for the god awful Mary Sue phenomenom which is much more usual in het pairings). Or what would you call turning an oviously straight character to gay and then making the other one follow a typical uke-stereotype by turning a strong character to a total wimp so his knight in a shining armor could save him? Yeah, doesn't differ much from badly written het. It really just is about badly written fanfiction (or canon), not the pairing itself.
Edited 2012-01-25 17:40 (UTC)