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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-25 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has a real disorder, what I hate about the autism-fans is the attitude that by saying they have autism everyone should start treating them with kid gloves, or bowing to their special-ness. I'm sorry, but some of us have fought long and fucking hard not to have the world coddle us. Every "I'm an aspie, be nice to me" asshole sets the disabled rights cause back near twenty years. It's the same with the trigger warning fetishizers, we've fought not to be wrapped in cotton wool, but to be treated as equals no matter what.

So no, no I won't cut autism fans slack, or try to insulate trauma recoverer's in cotton wool. I'll treat them like any other person, because that is the equality we fought for, that is the dignity that was hard won.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much.

I really hate this sort of cult where people feel they have to be their diagnosis. I choose to see myself as much more than that. I think it's limiting and insulting.

[identity profile] dodgerofzion.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes people with mental disorders or who are on the spectrum need accommodations to be able to go on with their lives, though. I hope you don't see that as coddling. You probably don't, having a disorder yourself. I've just seen too many people who say this kind of rhetoric (equality of treatment) to mean "I refuse to acknowledge accommodations or support structures for people with disabilities". And I'd be remiss to say something in case an mentally-well person reads this and thinks it's okay not try and dismiss the genuine need some people with mental disabilities have for accommodations and support.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Accommodations? Sure. Absolvance of any and all responsibility and/or consequences for their actions? Nuh-uh.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Question - do you hear any mention of "I have autism" or another mental disorder as automatically meaning "pay attention to me and treat me special" or does the person actually have to say that for you to get pissed off at them?
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[identity profile] darkmanifest.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I dunno. I default to consideration. Someone I know has a fear of dogs, I'm not gonna roll up on her on with a Great Dane just because I would do that with everyone else I know who doesn't have that fear. That's respect, not inequality.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for having common sense.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it really? I don't quite understand what you mean by "roll up on", but to get over the fear she'll have to start interacting with dogs normally. And I'm not trying to be cruel; I was bitten in the face (by a Great Dane!) as a child of about twelve, and had to consciously work with myself afterwards not to give in to fear. As a result, I don't have a fear of dogs today.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but you consciously worked with yourself. There's a difference between someone willingly working on a fear/phobia/whatever, and people knowing about a problem and purposely ignoring and provoking. You working with dogs = cool. Friends knowing about a fear of dogs and purposely ignoring that and shoving dogs into your live = not cool.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Harsh, like life.
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[identity profile] darkmanifest.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Roll up on", as in, shove a dog in her face without warning. I'm happy you were able to overcome your fear - I'm assuming no one forced you to do it? That it was an effort you made in your own time, using your own personal methods, and people who cared about you were considerate of what you'd been through until then? I'd encourage any attempts my friend might make to face her fear should she so choose, but it wouldn't be appropriate for me to take it upon myself to ignore her discomfort with certain situations despite knowing how she feels.