[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #264.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

02. http://i.imgur.com/fBWsb.png

[(Anonymous)]

I think his third post that day, though still unnecessarily standoffish and defensive, came off much better than his first two, to the extent that I imagine one or more of his friends must have taken him aside and gave him a talking-to.

[dodgerofzion.livejournal.com]

Kiss my spectrum.

[billybobfred0.livejournal.com]

1. You're a dick.
2. Why does the internet have this huge problem with people liking attention?

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, the diagnosis of Autism spectrum disorder is so broad now that you'll find relatively normal, functional people whom you wouldn't know had it unless you'd been told. This is one of the many reasons that - at least in my country - the government is reworking the definition of the disorder.

[(Anonymous)]

Congratulations, you're an ass. Get the fuck off my internet.

[(Anonymous)]

People shouldn't have to hide important parts of themselves from the world if they don't want to.

[jewelia13.livejournal.com]

Is anyone else having trouble focussing on this secret? It's making my eyes water.

OP - LOLNO.

[atlanticmelody.livejournal.com]

If you're going to post a wall of text cant you at least make it bigger?

[childings.livejournal.com]

What I want to know is WHY people think that just admitting you have a mental illness or disorder is "trying to be special". I mean, sure, there are people who blame everything on the fact that they have Aspergers and talk about it constantly when it isn't even relevant to the discussion but just ADMITTING that you have it is not "attention-whoring"

Also you're a fucking dick fuck yourself

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who has a real disorder, what I hate about the autism-fans is the attitude that by saying they have autism everyone should start treating them with kid gloves, or bowing to their special-ness. I'm sorry, but some of us have fought long and fucking hard not to have the world coddle us. Every "I'm an aspie, be nice to me" asshole sets the disabled rights cause back near twenty years. It's the same with the trigger warning fetishizers, we've fought not to be wrapped in cotton wool, but to be treated as equals no matter what.

So no, no I won't cut autism fans slack, or try to insulate trauma recoverer's in cotton wool. I'll treat them like any other person, because that is the equality we fought for, that is the dignity that was hard won.

[netbug009.livejournal.com]

I lose respect for people when they treat people differently because they have a mental illness, so I don't really mind if you dislike me.

So we're even...?

[kindlycoyote.livejournal.com]

Doesn't it depend on the situation? As someone who struggles with a couple of issues (which could be worse, as my family history is a hot bed of mental problems. At least I don't have severe social anxiety, epilepsy, ADHD, and am not bi-polar! Seriously, the vast majority of people in my family have been certified for these things and more. So I am relatively normal!), I never bring up my behavior as a 'excuse'. I will make it into a joke with people who notice (such as my obsessive touching every one of my finger tips in order until they 'feel' right), or mention it when giving people support if they are suffering from the same issues. In my blog I haven't mentioned my issues yet, and if I do make a post it will be to raise awareness rather than to excuse dickish behavior (because that shit don't fly).

If they are actually using it to excuse their behavior, then that is bad. Now, if they are using it as a explanation in conjunction with a apology then I don't see the bad in that, as long as it is in the form of 'it's not you, it's me'. I have had to apologize in the past for some of the things I did because of my own problems, and I will usually mention them- not to excuse or get out of anything, but to explain that it is my problem on this and I will try to do better.

So yeah. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in that you are only talking about people who use it as a excuse. If you mean it otherwise, then saying 'no one should mention their issues ever' is frankly unrealistic and feeding into shame culture. Because people aren't perfect, and sometimes they like to get things off their chest. *shrugs*

[hako-neko.livejournal.com]

I honestly think it depends on how they're presenting themselves with it. On one hand, it's remarkable when someone with a disability can show talent despite their hardships. On the other, it's fucking annoying when it's used as an excuse not to respect others.

[andromeda3116.livejournal.com]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you, perhaps, simply worded yourself poorly. That said, I do agree with some elements of this -- it is horribly annoying and really just horrible when people claim to have a mental disorder because they think it's cool and edgy. It's probably my only IRL berserk button, when someone says something like "Oh, I'm so OCD, I just have to have everything organized" or -- heaven help me -- "I'm Bipolar, can't you tell? I'm so moody!" Not only is it ignorant as all hell, but it cheapens the issues that real mental patients have to contend with. The fact that there even is such an animal as "Ass Burgers" is case in point of this; there's a certain kind of person who reads about a disorder on Wikipedia or hears about it through popcultural osmosis and thinks "hey, I'm maladjusted/moody/sad sometimes for no reason/awkward around people, that means that I'm autistic/bipolar/depressed" and take it upon themselves to make that diagnosis and start using it as an excuse.

Here's the bare bones of it, from my experience -- a real, genuine mental patient? Will not use it as an excuse to act however they want to. There are exceptions, of course -- being a mental patient does not necessarily mean that you aren't also a drama queen/king -- but for the most part, people who actually suffer from an actual psychiatric disorder spend most of their time and effort trying not to be defined by it, and in most cases won't even bring it up in public unless there's a good reason. To use broad strokes, most mental patients don't want the sympathy they'd get from broadcasting their issues across places that have nothing to do with said issues.

So, yes, there are plenty of people who claim to have issues because they think it gives them a free pass to act however they want to and/or because they think it makes them cool and different and edgy, and yes, that is infuriating as all hell because real mental disorders are often extremely debilitating, and to see some idiot who has never suffered from any serious neuroses claim that they're sooooo autistic or sooooo bipolar or sooooo OCD... it's frustrating, but more than that, it's depressing. Because if you're a mental patient, chances are, you'd kill to be normal, to be rid of your disorder. It's like being taunted with something you can never have by someone who can never understand what they're doing to you. It's agonizing.

All of this said, however, you worded this secret poorly as all fuck and if you sincerely mean it and it wasn't just a bad turn of phrase, then you can kindly go fuck yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

I have autism, and I don't want anybody treating me any different. I used to think I had to pretend to be "normal", but now I don't feel that way, I still continue. Because pretending to be normal is the only way people will treat me like i'm normal! I don't like it. :

[(Anonymous)]

This is why people feel like they need to hide their illnesses. Because people like you say we're making it up or doing it for attention or it's not important and doesn't actually affect us. This is why mental illness is stigmatized.

[la-petite-singe.livejournal.com]

Wow, that's...pretty assy, tbh.

[maverickz3r0]

Okay. Fuck you, though.

When someone gets diagnosed with any type of disorder later in life, it's typically a relief in the 'oh thank god there's a label for it' way. So of course we tell people about it. Because sometimes, it can really be this revelation about yourself--that's why I have those problems, that's why I do this, now I can be treated for them.

For people who were diagnosed as children or early teenagers, it's just part of who they are. I doubt anyone diagnosed young is going to treat it as a terrible secret or anything.

Now, if you're talking about the type of people who shove it in your face and demand attention/buttpats/special treatment for it, then god yes, fuck them. However, the wording of your secret is saying more 'if they mention it at all' which is...no.

P.S. Fuck you LJ, lemme pick between icoooooons.

[raccoons.livejournal.com]

I'm not colorblind and I think it's kinda pretty, especially when I'm not focusing on the words and it all blurs together.

[kikkyo.livejournal.com]

People who would use a mental illness to excuse their behavior just annoy me. Especially with the fact that half of them are drama/attention-seeking trolls with no real concept of the disorder they claim to have.

Just to add, I realize the secret was worded a little harshly, and just because a person mentions having a mental illness is no reason to judge them for it based on your experience with a bunch of trolls and drama queens on a forum or whatnot.

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU

HAVING AUTISM/OTHER MENTAL DISORDER DOES NOT GIVE YOU AN EXCUSE TO BE AN ASSHOLE

[(Anonymous)]

See: everyone who thinks claiming to be ADD is a weekend pass to be lol sooooo random!!1 XD *holds up spork*

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

[emerald1972.livejournal.com]

Not a BNF by any stretch of the imagination, but yes I have a number of issues, and yes, on occasion, those issues do interfere with my ability to write fic or create fanart, and sometimes I even get frustrated enough to vent about it.

I am diagnosed with Psychotic Major Depression, Anxiety/Panic Disorder. ADD, Anorexia Nervosa (Subtype 1-Restricting), and OCD tendencies. I don't see why I need to hide my issues away, like they're a bunch of dirty little secrets that should be locked in a deep, dark closet, and never see the light of day. I chose long ago to be open about my diagnosis, not to try and earn some sort of 'special snowflake' status, but to try and combat the fear and stigma that surrounds these illnesses. Stigma, and fear is what prevented me from getting help as soon as I experienced my first psychotic episode; stigma and fear is what stopped me from facing my issues, and getting treatment sooner rather than later. Stigma is what cost me more than 15 years of my life, when I could have been on the road to recovery, or at least learning to manage my conditions. No more. This is part of who I am, I don't really care what anyone else thinks.

I am mentally ill, deal with it. Because that's exactly what I've chosen to do. And if that makes me a 'special snowflake', then so be it, it's not my problem.

[xxsomeoneelsexx.livejournal.com]

It makes me kind of sad that everyone in this thread going "It is not good to stigmatize people with legitimate disorders" feels the need, without exception, to add a disclaimer of "but those people who only think they have it and use it as an excuse, yeah fuck them." Are fake Aspies/Aspies who avoid responsibility really that common that everyone has to tack that on when discussing mostly-decent people with real problems? Really?