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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-26 07:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1850 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1850 ⌋

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[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
...frivolous? All over the place?

I... I...

The movie better?

...

S-sorry, my brain just kinda broke. OP, no offense, but you need to read the book again. And pay attention this time. Jane Austen is one of those brilliant writers who you need to be on your toes for. Yes, she writes ABOUT frivolity- but in a way that satirizes it and dryly mocks the social mechanisms that is present in society itself. We get hint of Darcy's emotions from the very beginning of the book, and we see him slowly struggling to accept them in the glimpses we get into his mind.

Plus, in that movie we do not get the fullness of what changed Elizabeth's mind. (Seriously, wtf is with all the statues? It makes it look like she falls in love with his wealth, when the major contributor was seeing and hearing about him as a good man, thus showing her her own mistakes and assumptions!)

Don't get me wrong, I did like the new movie, and I don't mind it when people dislike the book. It's not for everyone. But calling the book frivolous when it in fact mocks frivolity at points is mistaken. Heck even the opening line mocks the assumptions of society and there are so many jokes at the expense of ribbons and status-

Yeah. Just saying, as someone who re-reads the book every year, every year I find a new clever bard and joke aimed at society and the fluttering nature promoted in young women. The book is anything but frivolous!

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
This. Except I didn't like the film but that's because I irrationally hate Keira Knightley.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-27 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Cosign. Except my hatred is entirely rational.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Share! Maybe I can explain someone looks at me and thinks I'm crazy.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-27 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think she always looks sharp and sour-faced, no matter the role or scene. She never convincingly conveys warmth or sentiment and has no range as an actress. She's just not talented, and frequently gets cast in roles that she's totally wrong for. She was in no way able to capture the vivaciousness or naivety of Elizabeth Bennett. The only role I think she was any good in was in Atonement ...because she was playing a sharp, standoffish, largely unlikable character.
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[identity profile] jazzypom.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
I think she always looks sharp and sour-faced, no matter the role or scene. She never convincingly conveys warmth or sentiment and has no range as an actress. She's just not talented, and frequently gets cast in roles that she's totally wrong for. She was in no way able to capture the vivaciousness or naivety of Elizabeth Bennett. The only role I think she was any good in was in Atonement ...because she was playing a sharp, standoffish, largely unlikable character.

+1

I can't say I've liked Austen's books though - not at all.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-27 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I love you Anon. You expressed how much I like dislike her so much better than I could. I never felt that she was Elizabeth Bennett. Her giggling with Jane was probably the only part where she didn't seem genuinely unlikeable, but it just didn't seem natural.

[identity profile] the-angry-pixie.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
needs to +1 this. hate Keira Knightley. sometimes i feel bad about it, but most of the time i dont.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I can understand the hate. She only seems to play one type of character. I admittedly thought it worked for P&P, but I actually have managed to avoid most other movies she is in by some stroke of fate.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I liked her in The Hole. But I hated her character in Pirates and then I heard some stuff about complaining because Disney made her look like an skeleton in the posters or something... and IDK. I dislike her.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, haven't seen that. And eewwwww, I hate t when Actresses complain about stuff like that. (Honestly, I pretty much never read anything about celebs so I am mostly clueless about what they say or do).

And yeah, her character in pirates was grating. It was ok in the first movie, but somewhere around the time she became a inspiring pirate captain my eyebrows were buried somewhere in my hair they had shot up so far.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
It's an film from 2001. A bunch of kids get into an old WWII bunker to avoid a school trip and shit happens. Murderous shit. It was cool.

She felt so... Mary Sueish in those films.

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I will agree with that. I don't like to use the Mary Sue word too much, but I think in this case it fits. (I personally identify it as 'A character who bends the laws of the universe to fit what they want/makes them special'. And lets face it- the whole thing of how she became a huge pirate seemed so contrived! Would that actually fly amongst a bunch of murderous pirates? I don't think so.)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-27 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
This. Only I'm not sure it's entirely irrational because she's so freaking annoying and could not act her way out of a wet paper bag. Surely that's reason enough?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-27 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I really like Keira Knightley and P&P, but I still hated this movie!

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, I won't see the film BECAUSE I hate Kiera Knightly. Actually, I don't hate her as a person so much as I hate that she's basically a character actress who can BEAUTIFULLY portray a spoiled, arrogant rich-bitch type, but can't play anything else at all, and yet she keeps getting cast as characters who are other types.

[identity profile] wynndfae.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Plus, the book is written mostly from Elizabeth's POV, so yes, Darcy's affections seem to come out of nowhere. But if you pay attention to his original declaration (against his better judgment, etc), his progressive frustration whenever she's around makes perfect sense. He didn't want to like her, but there was nothing he could do about it. I thought it was perfect and reminded me so much of my own experience with such stoic men. I love Darcy. I think he's an amazing character, but I think I'd have Lizzie's reaction to him as well if I'd ever met him in person.

For further amazing love with Darcy, "Lost in Austen" is fab. :3

[identity profile] kindlycoyote.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed to everything. And I will have to check that out. :3

[identity profile] royalbk.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Image (http://imgur.com/SoMhF)

[identity profile] nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
THIS A HUNDRED TIMES, THIS. Apart from liking the new movie... Tom Hollander was a brilliantly silly Collins, but the movie was nowhere close to standing up against the original BBC series.

[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, and I'm a 2005 movie fan above the 1995 miniseries. But the book is definitely the best, IMO.