[ SECRET POST #1850 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1850 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hunger Games / Pokemon]


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[Small Wonder]


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[Code Geass]


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[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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[The Vampire Diaries]


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[Skins UK Gen 1]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Team Fortress 2]


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[jewnicorns]


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[Peter Pan (2003)]


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[Big Wolf on Campus]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Wire in the Blood]


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[The King and I]


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[matantei loki]


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[Community]


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[The Borgias / Assassin's Creed Brotherhood]


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[The Hobbit]


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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

01. http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8127/pridesecret.jpg

[to-question.livejournal.com]

The Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle version portrays the attraction/romance better and you can actually understand what they see in each other while watching it.


I can understand what you mean about the novel itself. It never impressed me that much and I thought Elizabeth and Darcy were both really annoying. The only character I felt any sympathy for was Mary because Austen felt she was too ridiculous and boring to give any consideration.

[kindlycoyote.livejournal.com]

Really? Maybe it's because I have been, and have met, Marys in real life, but I have little sympathy for the character. Looking back at myself when I was her when younger, it's not a matter of 'being misunderstood', it's a matter of being arrogant and prideful and thinking you do everything the best (even when you really don't).

Plus, part of Jane Austen's charm was that she was such a bitch irl. Seriously, reading some of her letters about real people make me alternate between laughing like crazy and wincing at the lack of sympathy she has.

As for Elizabeth- I personally enjoyed her, however I feel the same about Mary Jane from Sense and Sensibility as you feel about Elizabeth, so I think that a lot of the time Jane Austen does a good job making the characters not perfect- which means that depending on their faults, they will rub people the wrong way.

[(Anonymous)]

I do not see why people like Darcy so much. But then, I almost always hate the male love interests for female characters that everyone else seems to love.

[(Anonymous)]

Completely agreed. Mostly because I really can't stand stories where the woman finds an aloof, distant man (kind of an asshole) and "fixes" him with her love.
Alos, seconding the Sei Shonagon recommendation because she is wonderfully bitchy.

[kindlycoyote.livejournal.com]

...frivolous? All over the place?

I... I...

The movie better?

...

S-sorry, my brain just kinda broke. OP, no offense, but you need to read the book again. And pay attention this time. Jane Austen is one of those brilliant writers who you need to be on your toes for. Yes, she writes ABOUT frivolity- but in a way that satirizes it and dryly mocks the social mechanisms that is present in society itself. We get hint of Darcy's emotions from the very beginning of the book, and we see him slowly struggling to accept them in the glimpses we get into his mind.

Plus, in that movie we do not get the fullness of what changed Elizabeth's mind. (Seriously, wtf is with all the statues? It makes it look like she falls in love with his wealth, when the major contributor was seeing and hearing about him as a good man, thus showing her her own mistakes and assumptions!)

Don't get me wrong, I did like the new movie, and I don't mind it when people dislike the book. It's not for everyone. But calling the book frivolous when it in fact mocks frivolity at points is mistaken. Heck even the opening line mocks the assumptions of society and there are so many jokes at the expense of ribbons and status-

Yeah. Just saying, as someone who re-reads the book every year, every year I find a new clever bard and joke aimed at society and the fluttering nature promoted in young women. The book is anything but frivolous!

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

This. Except I didn't like the film but that's because I irrationally hate Keira Knightley.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I know, OP, some things just played out for me better in that visual interpretation than in the book (and I do love the book). I think that makes us utter troglodytes in the eyes of hardcore Austenites. Oh wells.

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

ooh gurl, people are gonna JUMP ON YOU

(I liked that movie and that scene a lot too)

[(Anonymous)]

OP, I feel ya. I've never seen the movie, but now it's time for an unpopular opinion - I honestly think Pride & Prejudice is one of the worst books I've ever suffered through in my entire life.

[adlanth.livejournal.com]

And again: "frivolous"? I mean, yes, the whole marriage thing is often played for laughs, but at the same time, it's got concrete, serious implications for the girls. It's not just about getting the right guy, it's about not being completely destitute when their father dies, leaving with them with absolutely nothing.

[santagrover.livejournal.com]

everybody in my high school english lit class hated the movie lol

[nomorefrostbite.livejournal.com]

Have you seen the original BBC miniseries with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth? Because the movie is nowhere even close to matching up with that in any respect other than Tom Hollander playing a brilliant Collins (maybe the original BBC Collins was better, but he skeeved me out way too much to ever be able to say that, which is probably actually the point but whatevs).

Also... not even going to comment on the whole book thing, because other people have commented on it, and really if you think it in any way frivolous you are missing Austen's entire point in writing it completely.

But if you've not seen it, check out the BBC original version, because it is FAR better acted by everyone involved, and much more faithful to the text and era in style and substance imho.

[copperiisulfate.livejournal.com]

yes. this. that scene in that movie (and most of that movie's cinematography in general) still takes my breath away. i know a lot of people have the 2005 film but i still maintain it one one of the prettiest things ever.

[rosehiptea.livejournal.com]

I have various complaints about the film version but the proposal scene was awesome. (Darcy actually was pretty awesome overall, my love for Colin Firth nonwithstanding.)

Though I feel to a degree that in the book the reader was supposed to think Darcy's affections came out of nowhere -- Elizabeth certainly did. It took the later events to prove that he had real affection and not just "OK, I'm lowering myself here to propose to you."

[amanda-violet.livejournal.com]

I didn't read the book until I'd watched both movie versions. Honestly, it helped--I think I would have been too intimidated, going into it without already knowing the story. Bad English major.

Same goes for other books/movies, too. Seeing the movie just made me feel it better than I could have otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

Say whaaa? Gurl, plz.

[arcadiaego.livejournal.com]

I can't stand Austen (*pause while FSers tell the OP and I how stupid we are*) so my opinion probably doesn't count but I enjoyed the film as a viewing experience miles more than the BBC adaptation. It had wonderful feeling in the two central performances. I was practically tied up at uni and told to watch the BBC series again because I was *obviously* just not getting it but nope, Colin Firth was still wooden and Jennifer Ehle was still too old for the character. Maybe it's just too faithful to be interesting to me.

[la-petite-singe.livejournal.com]

I guess you have to take the book with a grain of salt and consider the time and everything, and read between the lines for the interesting stuff. But whatever; I totally love that movie too. Haters will get sternly reprimanded by Judi Dench. And that's just terrifying.

[(Anonymous)]

"Darcy's affections seemed to come out of nowhere."

I'm sorry, what? It's called reading between the lines. From the moment Darcy and Ms Bennet meet there are hints (strong hints, when you consider the time period it was written) which indicate that he has noticed her. You can easily deduct later in the novel that this has been the moment the infatuation began. Sure, it comes out of nowhere- if you didn't pay attention.

And then you say you prefer the movie. There's nothing wrong with that, but do you happen to know what the main criticism about this movie is? It's the fact that it's so very, very rushed - and the actors played a big part in that, it wasn't just the length of the movie that got all of the blame this time.

I enjoyed the movie too, but I can't with you.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you, OP. This is me with Sense and Sensibility, and lord do people go bonkers if I dare say it.

[mimine.livejournal.com]

The only way I managed to read this book was with zombies.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved the book, but I always found the way they handled that scene in the movie actually better than the book version. Like you said, the tension was borderline obscene.

I was actually surprised by how very very very good the movie is. I knew the actress who played Elizabeth only from Pirates and I wasn't sure how she would fare, but she's actually spot-on, with the big eyes and the long neck and always looking like she's fidgeting to say something but keeping herself back for the sake of propriety. And that Darcy was perfect. Stunning. A total dork in the beginning, rawrrrr at the end.

So yeah, I'll stop harping about the movie and say that while I loved the book, I think this movie the better adaptations that I've ever seen and I can totally understand somebody preferring it to the book.

Yeah, even better than the BBC miniseries. Somebody is going to have my head for this, but while Colin Firth is always awesome, I could never entirely buy that Elizabeth (she's probably a very good actress, pity I forget her name, but there's no accounting for taste and she just didn't work for me). Also it was one of those cases in which absolute faithfullness to the book ended up making for a somewhat wooden scenic movement and forced dialogues. Oh God, I hope nobody I know finds out I wrote this, they'll have my head.

[nevasanth.livejournal.com]

"The tension when he proposed the first time was the most palpable of any tension I've seen captured on screen."

Ungh, I know, right? It turned me into a gibbering, pillow-clutching mess.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really glad you liked the story, even if it was on movie form and not the book, I mean it's really awesome either way.

...though I wish I could feel the same way like you. Somehow, I hated the 2005 movie way beyond reason. The actor that played Darcy was just too whiny for me...