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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-27 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #1851 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1851 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for gore/death]
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19. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
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[identity profile] wolfie.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
First off, I said it was not my opinion.

I also said it's not the rape that makes it "romantic", nor that this makes the "rape any better". Please read.

[identity profile] jathis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, that is exactly what you said.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Now, first and foremost, I'm not defending the rape scene, nor the act itself. RAPE IS INCREDIBLY WRONG NO MATTER HOW IT GOES DOWN.

That said, you do realize that the over-arcing "reason" for the rape is because of a deep-set never-ending love for her partner? As wrong as the scene/act itself was, that is (UNFORTUNATELY) why their relationship is considered one that is "quintessential" and "romantic".

Please note, my own personal opinions don't exactly align with this popular set of opinions, either. But I am saying I can see WHY people think this way. The above is merely an attempt to present their voice.

...not saying it's not short-sighted. Because it is. xD;;


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[identity profile] jathis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
If her own personal views don't agree with it then she doesn't need to try and defend the fact that people view rape is okay in the first place. You can copy and paste all you want but she defended the idea of rape for love.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Now, first and foremost, I'm not defending the rape scene, nor the act itself. RAPE IS INCREDIBLY WRONG NO MATTER HOW IT GOES DOWN.

That said, you do realize that the over-arcing "reason" for the rape is because of a deep-set never-ending love for her partner? As wrong as the scene/act itself was, that is (UNFORTUNATELY) why their relationship is considered one that is "quintessential" and "romantic".

Please note, my own personal opinions don't exactly align with this popular set of opinions, either. But I am saying I can see WHY people think this way. The above is merely an attempt to present their voice.

...not saying it's not short-sighted. Because it is. xD;;

Seems to me that they were only commenting on the fandom, trying to figure out why the fandom would/might think that. Lot's of people do it, wonder why people think they way that they do.

Please to be learning reading comprehension.

[identity profile] jathis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Please to be learning how to not copy and paste like a shithead to try and hide.

And no, if she didn't agree with it then she didn't need to try and explain away the rape AT ALL.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Please to be shutting up now, wolfie. I can bold too.

[identity profile] jathis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ironically this isn't even her. So no

You'll never believe me, of course. But I'm not.

[identity profile] jathis.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Then fuck off and stop white knighting shittily.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, wolfie.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, you're just a shithead white knight.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
+1. Sounded like those bolded statements were added in order to not look like a disgusting shithead, though clearly it didn't work.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, wolfie.

[identity profile] lilweirdomokyn.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I may regret asking this, but who the heck is wolfie and why are they being brought up all the time in this conversation?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
because they posted the original thread: http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/830593.html?thread=518440321#t518440321

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
From my understanding, [livejournal.com profile] wolfie replied to the secret defending those who still view the relationship the way Twilight fen see Edward/Bella, with a very poorly worded "the act was a bad, but the reason are justified" argument. Then an anon showed up that started copypasting [livejournal.com profile] wolfie's comment with the statements bolded to show that she really wasn't defending rape. Others don't buy it, and think the anon is a sockpuppet of [livejournal.com profile] wolfie.

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hi wolfie (I want in on this and it's obvious all of you are wolfie)
Edited 2012-01-28 04:37 (UTC)

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Late to the party, unfortunately. They ate all the cake.

[identity profile] formula-410.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Don't listen to this guy! He's trying to mislead you! He's obviously wolfie in disguise!
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Adding a disclaimer to the beginning doesn't nullify saying the exact opposite thing in the middle. Not even if you follow it up with more evading at the end.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what you said. Quit backpedaling.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Now, first and foremost, I'm not defending the rape scene, nor the act itself. RAPE IS INCREDIBLY WRONG NO MATTER HOW IT GOES DOWN.

That said, you do realize that the over-arcing "reason" for the rape is because of a deep-set never-ending love for her partner? As wrong as the scene/act itself was, that is (UNFORTUNATELY) why their relationship is considered one that is "quintessential" and "romantic".

Please note, my own personal opinions don't exactly align with this popular set of opinions, either. But I am saying I can see WHY people think this way. The above is merely an attempt to present their voice.

...not saying it's not short-sighted. Because it is. xD;;


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(Anonymous) 2012-01-28 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, wolfie.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-01-28 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
You said that the fact that she did it out of a "deep-set never-ending love" (which is bullshit, BTW, if you truly love someone YOU DON'T RAPE THEM) was why other people (totally not you, but you can totally see it from their point of view) found it romantic. You basically put out a theory "love" as being a justification or, at least, mitigation of rape.