[ SECRET POST #1870 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1870 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think you missed the part where intent isn't always obvious, especially on the internet, and also the part where words that have been used in an abusive fashion can still be really jarring and upsetting to someone when directed toward them in a non-abusive or ambiguously abusive context. I mean, shit, fandom gets trauma-related triggers when it comes to fic warnings, but doesn't understand how having the word "fag" thrown at them might be triggering to someone whose experienced bullying over their sexuality?

[(Anonymous)]

I have a serious love/hate relationship with trigger warnings. A part of me wants to say "You know what? There are no trigger warnings out in the real world, and it is not everyone else's responsibility to make sure YOU feel comfortable all of the time." But, another part of me really does get it. I'm so fucking conflicted.

[(Anonymous)]

I can understand that, especially as someone who has triggers that aren't the sort anyone warns for, but it seems like not using words that were and still are used as slurs should be as much of a no-brainer as not putting a surprise rape scene in fic labeled "romance/comedy." There's a point at which the idea of common courtesy applies.

[(Anonymous)]

I can definitely see it from that perspective. I do feel that trigger warnings can get a bit excessive, but I also see the need for them as well.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's less that trigger warnings get excessive as opposed to some people are misusing the word trigger.

A trigger is something that seriously impacts your mental health. It can cause a flashback, panic or a very intense emotional reaction.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are using it to mean something that squicks them. A squick is something which grosses you out. Maybe even grosses you out really, really badly. But it doesn't actually have a severe impact on your overall mental health.

Because people have misused trigger to mean squick, there seems to be a group of people that think people are required to included a warning for anything and everything that squicks them and then call it a trigger warning. This is not true and it's making it hard for people who truly are triggered to explain what happens to them and causes people to be dismissive of their reactions.

[(Anonymous)]

Different anon. I think another problem is that even when someone uses the word trigger correctly, they could have very specific triggers. I have some that I don't think anyone else does, and thus I wouldn't expect anyone to warn for them because that would involve them to have prior, in-depth knowledge of my specific requirements. I see people demanding warnings for every little thing under the sun, or GIVING warnings for every little thing under the sun, and regardless of if they're actually fully triggered by them, it's looking for things that they can't possibly expect people to have prior knowledge of.

One time I saw a warning given for hemophobia. Want to know how this played out in the post? A mention of the poster's mother having hemophobia. There was no blood in the actual post, no pictures, no descriptions. Only a mention of the existence of a fear. And that's going too far.

[(Anonymous)]

I can see the "there are no triggers warnings in the real world" angle, but at the same time, fandom is often what people use as escapism from the real world, so.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

"there are no trigger warnings in the real world"

This bugs me too, because it seems like, as the person choosing whether to warn for a trigger or not, you're somehow allowed to decide how people with triggers should treat their own mental health, because you know what's best for them, and they should just get used to being triggered like in real life! It sounds too much to me like "grow a thicker skin and your PTSD will go away!" Which may be how it works for some people (exposure therapy is a thing), but hello, you are not my medical professional, thanks.

You can warn or not warn, or whatever floats your boat. But I don't understand the backlash towards people who decide to extend this fairly simple courtesy. I promise they're not making my life with PTSD so soft and comfortable that I'll never ever recover, thanks so much for your concern and well intentioned advice.

TOTALLY OT SORRY just this makes me grate my teeth every time I see it.

[coffeeyoukai.livejournal.com]

You do realise that it's mostly used on 4chan and related imageboards, and anyone who goes there has much more to get upset over than what amounts to a throwaway term?

4chan =/= fandom in general