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fandomsecrets2012-02-17 05:31 pm
[ SECRET POST #1872 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1872 ⌋
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The biggest issue she complained about was people thinking there was something wrong with her and her roommate/best friend saying 'she just needed to find the right guy', which is fucked up.
Yeah, and queer and straight women go through this too. It's misogyny in action-- finding a man will "fix" a woman, because being single and a woman means you are "broken" in our society.
Hell, I was the first and for a long time only person she told and who supported her throughout her realization of it, but she still-... sorry, unsolved issues. Stop ranting now.), but it is more something that makes you feel different and makes you have to explain yourself to everyone, and sometimes be seen as a freak, then anything else.
See, this is when I start to think people are redefining "oppression" as "anything that causes me inconvenience."
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Yes, I've gotten weird looks/dumb questions from people who were totally down with being gay and bisexual, but thought it was odd to not want sex at all. And you know what? Yes. It is odd to not be sexually attracted to people. I don't think there's any harm in admitting that. Normal, yes, but still strange.
TL;DR version: The only group who can ever have "sexual privilege" is straight people. Period. End.
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-18 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)Have you not heard of intersectionality? When someone tells a straight woman that she "just needs to find the right guy", that's misogyny. When someone tells a gay woman that, it's misogyny and homophobia. When someone tells an asexual woman that, it's misogyny and anti-asexual sentiment.
Also, what's your point? That because straight and gay women have similar experiences, asexual women should shut up about how their asexuality intersects with their other oppressions and how it affects them? What the hell.
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-18 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)When someone tells an asexual woman that, it's misogyny and anti-asexual sentiment.
No, it isn't. It's straight-up misogyny. There is no such thing as "anti-asexuality sentiment" because unless you make a pest of yourself about it, nobody fucking cares who you don't want to fuck. And if you do make a pest of yourself, people aren't against your asexuality, they're against you being a histrionic ass.
That because straight and gay women have similar experiences, asexual women should shut up about how their asexuality intersects with their other oppressions and how it affects them?
Yes, that is the point. You need to stop appropriating the hell out of the LGBT experience if you don't belong to it. You aren't discriminated against or oppressed solely because you don't want to get it on. Get the fuck over it.
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-18 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)This is a perfect example right here.
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Asexuality intersects with nothing because there is no privileged "sexual" class, nor is there an inherently oppressed "asexual" class. A woman gets told she "just needs to find the right guy" because of misogyny, and often at the same time because of homophobia, whether she's straight or not. A woman always needs to find the right man, because a woman is not whole without one. When an asexual woman says she's not interested in sex, the assumption is that she's a "frigid b*tch," because she's a woman who's not making herself sexually available to men. That is misogyny. Or she'd be assumed to be a lesbian, and equally-detested class of people. If an asexual man said he was not interested in sex, he'd be assumed to be gay as well, or accused of being a "p*ssy" because men are assumed to always be interested in sex and casual hookups. Not because there's a unique oppression against asexual men, but because patriarchal norms sometimes backfire on men, and they're expected to be highly sexual and emotionally dead. Women, the opposite. (Of course, women get a double whammy here because the ones without interest in sex are "frigid" and the ones with are "sl*ts" so...)
Outside of tumblr and livejournal, most of the world doesn't know asexuals exist, bottom line. There can be no active oppression against them if they are at best, not even heard of, and at worst, ignored. You are pressured with all the same pressures that affect "sexuals," the exact expectations for sex and relationships, the exact same sexism, the exact same gender binary, the exact same sex assumptions. You cannot claim oppression when your people are going through the exact same things other people are.
Frankly, it's insulting that you believe "sexual" people have these issues any easier because they're sometimes sexually attracted to people. The pressure to be sexual, and conversely, the pressure to be chaste at the same time is a dichotomy that oppresses us both. Hell, some people are deemed "too sexual," because they're more sexually active, should we create a class for them? Or should we assume that their discrimination is merely a result of our society's views on sex and relationships, on gender and gender norms, rather than a unique subset of "oppression?"
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