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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-02-21 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #1876 ]

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[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if the people who forbid the word "crazy" hate Iroh, then.

This thought makes me sad =/

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, the person I'm thinking of specifically loved Iroh, IIRC.

But crazy is still a Bad Word that Must Not be Said at All. Ever.

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
See, that's funny. Because it was Iroh who said of Azula "she's crazy, and she needs to go down."

Oh, internet. Never change!

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, see, if it's a character who's saying it, that's different. Or something.

I'm not actually sure.

EDIT: I went to find the actual policy:

"3) No use of any pejorative slurs allowed in any context EXCEPT when you are quoting something or explaining about its usage in culture. You are allowed to use them to talk ABOUT them, but are not allowed to USE them to talk. Deal? Deal.

Quite a few people have still managed to use slurs on this site, despite that I have even addressed said slurs in my reviews! So, can we all PLEASE strip “crazy” and “lame” from our vocabularies on this site immediately? And if you are called on it, please stop and MOVE ON. No defending your use of those words."

Yep, "crazy" is the same as "lame", and thus it cannot be used to describe anyone, not even Azula.
Edited 2012-02-22 00:38 (UTC)

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's messed up. Because if Azula isn't the definition of "crazy", I don't know what is.

Seriously, the entry in the dictionary should just have her face next to it.

*using this 'cause it's the only Azula icon I have*

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right?

It should! It would be perfect.

And "dork" would have Zuko next to it. :3

*I don't even have an Azula icon because she scares me too much*

[identity profile] nyxelestia.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Zuko is the most Badass Dork of all fucking time. :D

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
He is the most badass dork to have ever dorked.

But he's still a dork, and that's why I love him. :D

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Idk. I just don't find it to be that huge of a personal sacrifice to not use the words "crazy" or "lame" on his sites for the sake of not potentially making other people feel uncomfortable, and I'll enforce Mark's policies. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is. Like why is it such a hardship to just not use a few words on one site?

I mean, it has forced me to think more critically about what I am trying to express in order to find other words to use. But that's not a bad thing.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-22 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't ever comment, but that was just kind of one of my "really? that word of all things? really?" moments, so...

No, it's not a bad thing to think critically, but to equate words like "crazy" with words pejorative insults is another matter. I mean, if you're talking about other people, not cool. But, say, in Avatar? Using crazy to describe Azula is IMO a very apt term, because she seems neuro-typical in most respects until the ending, but she acts in ways that are sound, if a bit, well, crazy, and out there, and I would not wish to ascribe to her any sort of non-neurotypical diagnosis to explain away the way she acts, as that is not my place.

Azula. She's just crazy. Crazy awesome, crazy cruel, and in the end, crazy sad.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Probably because it's not just "one" word. There's a whole lot of them to consider. Mostly because the words I used in the 80s growing up have an etymology completely different with their contextual usage.

Good examples being "dumb" (as part of "deaf and dumb") where it historically meant that the person was mute when we were talking about Anne Frank in school, I was confused because I just thought it meant someone stupid (and I wasn't allowed to call my brother any variation of stupid). Despite "dumb" having both dictionary definitions, most people use it as an insult that doesn't involve the other party being silent. I think the spirit of this thread is that people are taking SJ too far in some cases and are looking for excuses to be upset and bemoan anything that makes them different and thus sensitive.

It's like
Person A: Wow, I really like that neat picture!
Person B: Liquor is served neat and I'm a recovering alcoholic! I can't believe you'd mention that to me!

And while I agree if you visit as site, you follow its rules, it's not about "thinking more critically", because sometimes you're using terms colloquially in an OBVIOUS manner as to which definition is appropriate. No intent to insult is given and suddenly you're blindsided by people rushing to insist you are an asshole because someone, somewhere is different and might possibly think you meant the term as a pejorative against them.

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-02-23 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
wtf? I've gotten yelled at (and banhammer-threatened) for repeating a quote that someone else says with a slur in it.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-02-23 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That is, quite frankly, a stupid policy.