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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1901 ]

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(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
People prefer fighting their own fights, I guess.
Yes, we do. And seriously, not to be rude, but since you have no perspective on the minority side of this issue and we already know everything there is to know about the majority side, what input might you be able to provide on this issue?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
DA. How exactly do you know everything about the "majority" if you're not a part of it? There is logic fail here.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Because of course, women got the vote all on their own in the U.S. in 1920. Men didn't have to approve that amendment at all.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
this.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, as a feminist, I can understand the supposed intent of the comment, I guess - it's asking people in more privileged positions not to think they know more about what the marginalized are going through, or take over the fight for them. But there's also recognizing that as a minority, in order to secure equal rights and treatment, you sort of need the support of enough of the majority population to gain them. That doesn't mean you have to pander to the majority, but you could, you know, recognize the ones who are actually trying to help and not snap at them for it.

[identity profile] jak-frostty.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
iawtc!

[identity profile] fierceawakening.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Sometimes allies are obnoxious... but sometimes people go out of their fucking way to find something wrong with what an ally said, and that's just absurd to me.

[identity profile] tinuelena.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
THIS.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Bully for you. Go win those fights w/o straight allies. Oh, wait. You can't. You're in the minority and people who are in the minority position don't win fights b/c the numbers are against them. IOW, there's a hell of a lot more straight people around than QUILTBAG members.

And if the straight people care don't care about minority rights, guess what, they don't exist--legislation doesn't get passed by--guess who?--straight people mainly.

So, go ahead, and alienate those straight allies of yours. It's a totally winning strategy. Not.