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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-23 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1907 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1907 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
So in that sense PATF really isn't "classic Disney animation" anyway.

So how do you define classic Disney animation? Stuff from the 1930's? Stuff from the 50's? What about in the Dark Age? What about the Renaissance? How about Roger Rabbit? That was done on cels.

Also, I will point out that cels is often used in the business to refer to a handdrawn frame in animation, not just the celluiod itself.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! I forgot! In your "classical Disney animation" definition what about xeroxing Vs. inking? That's another important distinction!

[identity profile] othellia.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Xeroxing! I forgot what that was called, but yeah. Would've never had 101 Dalmations without xeroxing. <3

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, Disney is all about advancing animation technology! Even with a lot of the movies in the 60's or so xeroxing was cheaper, but also preserved the original animation drawing in the final film. Personally I prefer the inked look, but I can see where the xerox could be preferable.

[identity profile] fadeinthewash.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Is xeroxing why certain scenes in 101 Dalmatians randomly look very different from the rest of the the movie? That always bugged me as a kid when the art style suddenly had a subtle but distinct shift, then all back to normal again.

[identity profile] othellia.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, since I'm pretty sure the xerox process was used on the whole film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7eP67T_37I&t=7m25s). My animation textbook is more trustworthy, but it only mentions it's the first major use of xerox, not whether the whole film was done with it. And then I had the privilege of hearing a lecture by Roy Disney several years back, and I'm think he mentioned it somewhere in there as well. So 95% sure it was applied equally to the whole film (which is also why the whole film has the more sketchy lines as opposed to films like Sleeping Beauty or the Lion King).

My best guess is that it's a whole slew of animators working on a film, so a couple might've drawn things a bit differently from the rest?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
So how do you define classic Disney animation?

IDK, anything done with cels... Disney used cel animation for most of its existence after all

Also, I will point out that cels is often used in the business to refer to a handdrawn frame in animation

And? I think people understand what someone means by "cel animation" and that's why 2D animation done with a computer is usually called "2D animation". I haven't seen many people calling stuff scanned into a computer and colored "cel animation"
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
IDK, anything done with cels... Disney used cel animation for most of its existence after all

It also used various technology to speed production including xeroxing pencil drawings onto the celluloid. CAPS is another step not a fundamental change. What about animation using cels and computer generated imagery? That's not "classic" as they only start in I think it was '86 on Great Mouse Detective.

Also by your definition Roger Rabbit is classic Disney animation while Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, etc. are not, even though the latter clearly fit better in the canon of Disney films.

If you're going by what Disney has been doing for most of its existence Mickey Mouse would not be considered classic Disney - they have been drawing Mickey Mouse cartoons for less than half of the time they've been a studio.

I haven't seen many people calling stuff scanned into a computer and colored "cel animation"

It's commonly called traditional animation even when using CAPS or beyond.