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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-23 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1907 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1907 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Think about your first sentence.

You just described two demisexuals as being gay and straight respectively.

This is why people don't think demisexuality is a true orientation. A demisexual can simultaneously be one of the other orientations. Nor does it describe the gender of the people you are primarily attracted to, which all the other orientations do. As a classification system that doesn't work.

Demisexuality describes a condition that must be met before attraction can occur, not orientation. And that's okay! Demisexuality certainly exists, it just describes something other than sexual orientation.

That's not a bad thing! We need more words to describe the different ways people are and are not attracted to each other. It's not like everything relating the sex and sexuality must be an orientation for it be important.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I like you.

[identity profile] vertigomac.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
You make good points.

So in this way, it would be phrased as "lesbian (orientation) demisexual (expression of the orientation).

The woman who now identifies as a lesbian(demisexual) didn't think she had a sex drive. I wonder, if they break up, will she become asexual, lesbian asexual, bisexual asexual or what.

Are you the SA upthread? Because actually I was responding less to the question of true orientation than to why demisexuals angered that anon so much, and why they felt shamed and judged by them.

Unless part of your point is they feel shamed by something they feel is not real, and that makes them angry.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

If you are talking about this comment, then yes. Other wise I don't think so
http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/860818.html?thread=533319570#t533319570

However, to address your example of a demisexual lesbian, her relationship status would have no affect on her sexual orientation, nor would it have any affect on whether or not she was a demisexual.

A demisexual lesbian is a woman who is only attracted to women that she has an emotional connection too. Her relationship status does not affect this at all. If she was not currently attracted to anyone, she would not "become" an asexual, she would just not currently be attracted to anyone.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Upon reflection, I realize you thought I might be the anon you had been replying to, which, no I am not.

That particular anon is hyper defensive and makes generalizations. I wish they'd get off my side, they're making the rest of us look like angry jackasses.

[identity profile] vertigomac.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
OK, that was a DA.

Thanks.

I'm finding it ironic that I'm trying to wedge this poor woman (that I see maybe twice a year) into labels that really meant nothing to me several hours ago.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-24 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think people (as a group) are just not capable of not labeling people. I think the important part is not to place an undue importance on a label. Because if no one really cares the label is (just that you have one) then it's not going to be a big deal. Right? Does that make sense?