[ SECRET POST #1914 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]

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20. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, child abuse, and shotacon]



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Comments

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

That's one of the many, many issues I have with that episode and why my personal Merlin canon ends with the adorable proposal scene. Nothing after that exists for me.

I just hate the way the writers decided to work in the 'betrayal'. I hate that they felt they HAD to work it in at all, but at least they could've done a better job with it. I would've preferred if Gwen actually HAD cheated on Arthur because at least it would've been her CHOICE. The canon enchantment was just ridiculous and screwed over Gwen and Lancelot so much it hurt. Not to mention that Arthur banishing Gwen was the last straw in my decreasing love for him in series 4. And that Merlin and all her friends just stood there and watched it happen...I don't know how she forgave them all, tbh and I kinda wish she hadn't.

[fuckyeah.livejournal.com]

I don't know how she forgave them all, tbh and I kinda wish she hadn't. This is a good point; to me it seemed it was all up to Gwen to apologize, which wasn't fair at all.

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

The whole thing was unfair and a damn mess, if you ask me, but I definitely agree that there should've been apologies all around, not just from poor Gwen. (Especially since she was the ONLY one who did NOTHING wrong :(...)

[(Anonymous)]

I too thought the enchantment was a cop-out but Morgana enchanted that bracelet to emphasise the feelings Gwen had for Lance, not enchant her into thinking she did love him.

And that Merlin and all her friends just stood there and watched it happen..

Really? What were they supposed to do, argue with Arthur when Merlin and Agravaine also witnessed the kiss, Arthur's reaction and Lancelot's attempt not to defend but to kill? Or how Gwen placed herself in front of Lancelot and pleading with Arthur to stop? If we didn't know that she was enchanted like Merlin & Arthur didn't, wouldn't you have thought that she loved Lance, not Arthur and it was indeed a betrayal?

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

Sure, Gwen loved Lancelot (and probably always will) but she wasn't IN love with him any longer because she was in love with Arthur and wanted a life with him, not Lance. The enchantment took Gwen's feelings back to the in love state and also made her act totally OOC by sneaking around with Lancelot instead of simply admitting that she still had feelings for him and needed time to work through them or something.

For starters, they could've suggested that she'd been enchanted. Merlin and Gaius knew Lancelot wasn't really Lancelot and that he was being controlled by Morgana but they never even questioned that maybe Morgana had also done something to Gwen? Or that fake!Lancelot had done something to Gwen? They just assumed she'd cheat on Arthur the second Lancelot showed up despite knowing how honest and loyal Gwen has always been. And that goes for her brother, as well. He never stopped to take Merlin aside and ask if Gwen had somehow been enchanted despite the fact that he'd suffered the same fate in the prior episode? And Elyan just let his sister be banished without going with her and still continued to serve the guy who banished and humiliated her? Talk about being a crappy brother...The least Merlin or Elyan could've done was make sure she got somewhere safe once she was banished and they didn't even do that much.

[(Anonymous)]

*ayrt* Just to get it out there, I've never bought Gwen as being in love with Arthur; I've maintained she's been in love with the idea of Arthur and was attracted to the title much more than the man. This was really made abundantly clear to me when she said she wanted to be his queen instead of saying she wanted to be his wife. I also believe Arthur does love her, but more a first crush way. I would have liked to be shown they were in love instead of being told they were in love.


. Merlin and Gaius [...] never even questioned that maybe Morgana had also done something to Gwen? They just assumed she'd cheat on Arthur [...] despite knowing how honest and loyal Gwen has always been.

If they had known about the bracelet, then I'd say yes they should have known something was up. I do believe her statement about the shock of his return combined with her guilt made her confused and find it plausible that she may have had a momentary lapse.

Gwen is honest and loyal, but that doesn't mean she can't make a mistake. She wore his token without hesitation (obviously wasn't compelled to do as shown by the gaol scene) is enough to indicate she still felt something more that mere friends despite what she said.

Elyan just let his sister be banished without going with her and still continued to serve the guy who banished and humiliated her? Talk about being a crappy brother.

Actually I think Arthur spared Gwen the humiliation that her banishment should have been. He did it behind closed doors with no audience & told her to leave by dawn when no townsfolk were present and she didn't have an armed guard to ensure she left. That Merlin was there to see her off, even though they never spoke, was more support than she would have expected.

As for Elyan, perhaps he's happy his sister wasn't executed as court gossip said should happen. He wasn't present for the previous horrible events Gwen's been through when he should have come running, so him keeping to his vow of serving Arthur doesn't grate me like it does you.