[ SECRET POST #1914 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]

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20. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, child abuse, and shotacon]



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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

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[Merlin]

[(Anonymous)]

NGL him doing that really, really made me uncomfortable and certainly effected how I feel about the pairing. I get Arthur's character and I know why he did it, but it still makes me hate him a little bit. I'm a big Arthur stan, so it's weird to find the one thing out of all the stupid stuff he's done that makes me lose some of my faith in him.

[(Anonymous)]

Me too anon. Sometimes I just want to pretend Merlin ended with season 1.

[kathkin.livejournal.com]

I have... very mixed feels about that moment.
On the one hand, I don't think they should have gone there. It was a really dark moment for Arthur, and really uncomfortable to watch, and I just... ick.

On the other hand I think it was dealt with better than you'd expect from Merlin and it didn't make me angry with Arthur the way basically everything else in that scene did. Mostly because his reaction right after made it pretty obvious that he was aware he'd crossed a line.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly because his reaction right after made it pretty obvious that he was aware he'd crossed a line.
Saving grace from that scene tbh

[(Anonymous)]

what else about the scene made you angry?

[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

Good thing I never thought much of them anyway. Not that that would necessarily be enough to ruin the ship for me if I was really into it, though. I ship Merthur and Arthur literally treats Merlin like shit 98% of the time.

Anyways. Why did he shake Gwen? I'm guessing this happened in s4 since that's the only season that I've missed episodes from.

[amarra-jade.livejournal.com]

Why did he shake Gwen?

He saw her kissing Lancelot the night before they were supposed to get married. Lancelot was under Morgana's control and Gwen was under a love spell (also Morgana's), but Arthur didn't know that.

[fuckyeah.livejournal.com]

Arthur finally asked Gwen to marry her, but Morgana enchanted Lancelot and Gwen so they were sneaking around together and they were caught. The scene in the secret is from Arthur yelling at her about it.

[fuckyeah.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I really couldn't watch this episode because it was so upsetting to me, and this is one of the reasons. (Infidelity is a big squick of mine, as well as yelling and abuse; I got part way through the episode in question and had to stop because I was shaking so badly) I mean, I understand Arthur was upset and acted rashly, but just because he seemingly regretted it later does not make it okay. And that's coming from someone who likes the Arwen ship but just wishes it was handled a whole lot better than it was in the show.

[amarra-jade.livejournal.com]

The shaking wasn't as bad as I expected. It was bad, obviously, but at least Arthur immediately backed off and apologized.

However, I was (and still am) seriously pissed that it never occurred to Merlin or Gaius that Gwen could be enchanted, neither Merlin nor Elyan bothered to say goodbye or help her with things as she was leaving Camelot (and Elyan further proved in the next ep that he didn't give a shit about his sister), and her name was never cleared, so she still thinks she cheated on the man she loves.

[fuckyeah.livejournal.com]

However, I was (and still am) seriously pissed that neither Merlin nor Gaius suspected that Gwen may be enchanted, neither Merlin nor Elyan bothered to say goodbye or help her with things as she was leaving Camelot (and Elyan further proved in the next ep that he didn't give a shit about his sister), and her name was never cleared, so she still thinks she cheated on the man she loves. <-- In complete agreement to all of this, but especially the part I bolded. I mean, Merlin sensed the magic in the phoenix bracelet Morgana gave Arthur, why couldn't he with Gwen's? (If he did and I just missed it, apologies in advance; I had skip around just to get through the episode.)

[(Anonymous)]

Merlin is such a fucking mess these days plot and character-wise idgaf anymore what happens to anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Why should they have assumed she was enchanted? Lancelot and Gwen had a prior relationship, he was her first love and she thought he'd just returned from the dead. It made sense that she might be tempted. They shouldn't have had to be enchanted, that's what ruined it for me. It cheapened everything they had together prior to this.

[(Anonymous)]

I found that scene hilarious.

[mfirefly10.livejournal.com]

That's one of the many, many issues I have with that episode and why my personal Merlin canon ends with the adorable proposal scene. Nothing after that exists for me.

I just hate the way the writers decided to work in the 'betrayal'. I hate that they felt they HAD to work it in at all, but at least they could've done a better job with it. I would've preferred if Gwen actually HAD cheated on Arthur because at least it would've been her CHOICE. The canon enchantment was just ridiculous and screwed over Gwen and Lancelot so much it hurt. Not to mention that Arthur banishing Gwen was the last straw in my decreasing love for him in series 4. And that Merlin and all her friends just stood there and watched it happen...I don't know how she forgave them all, tbh and I kinda wish she hadn't.

[fuckyeah.livejournal.com]

I don't know how she forgave them all, tbh and I kinda wish she hadn't. This is a good point; to me it seemed it was all up to Gwen to apologize, which wasn't fair at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I too thought the enchantment was a cop-out but Morgana enchanted that bracelet to emphasise the feelings Gwen had for Lance, not enchant her into thinking she did love him.

And that Merlin and all her friends just stood there and watched it happen..

Really? What were they supposed to do, argue with Arthur when Merlin and Agravaine also witnessed the kiss, Arthur's reaction and Lancelot's attempt not to defend but to kill? Or how Gwen placed herself in front of Lancelot and pleading with Arthur to stop? If we didn't know that she was enchanted like Merlin & Arthur didn't, wouldn't you have thought that she loved Lance, not Arthur and it was indeed a betrayal?

[republicanism.livejournal.com]

ok, but. he says in the episode that normally gwen would get executed for what happened. camelot is not the height of ~progressive politics~. it wasn't the best reaction but i didn't think it was completely out of nowhere. arthur regularly throws heavy shit at merlin for waking him up early so uh yeah arthur has always been kind of a violent douche training to be a prat since birth etc. etc. I didn't think it was out of character at all.

aaaaand now im gonna get eaten.

[(Anonymous)]

It wasn't ooc to me at all. But it still made me sad and uncomfortable.

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

That entire episode was stupid. So stupid.

"OOC dead guy is macking on you. Normally I'd jump to the usual given conclusion of magiks being involved, but today I'm just going to rattle and exile you."

Seriously, Show. Normally I can roll with the consistent awfulness and have fun with it, but there was just too much this time. So many facepalm/headdesk moments here orz

[(Anonymous)]

No offense, but while I understand it being a very uncomfortable scene, saying it "ruined" their relationship is stupid. If you seriously lose all faith in a relationship because of one moment like that, you're not gonna have a whole lot of lasting friendships or relationships irl. Was this wrong? Hell yes. Was this something unforgivable that forever and ever ruined their relationship? Hell no, not unless you're going to hold the standard of human behavior up so high that 90% of humankind rates as a complete monster.

People are always jabbering like there's some huge shining absolute dividing line between yelling at someone and physically striking/grabbing/shaking them, and you somehow magically turn into a complete monster if you cross it, but you know what? There isn't. It has shades of gray. He wasn't intentionally trying to hurt her, or intentionally trying to scare her, just yelling and losing control. It wasn't an implication of abuse or anything like that. It's not like repeatedly hitting someone or indulging in your anger for an extended period of time, which would imply something very nasty about the character. But seriously, I dare anyone to say they've never done anything wrong and hurtful in the heat of the moment. Hell, I doubt many people here can honestly say they've never hit, pushed, or shaken anyone in anger before. People lose control. People fuck up. People do things in the heat of the moment that they wish they could take back. It happens. It's not something black-and-white.

[(Anonymous)]

Because good characters (and good people) never have strong emotions or do a wrong thing at the height of passion, right? If you want to watch perfectly level-headed, wonderful people doing the right thing all the time...well, I can imagine you're disappointed a lot.

And if it was uncomfortable to watch...sometimes THAT'S THE POINT.

[copperiisulfate.livejournal.com]

man i'm generally a big merlin/arthur shipper and i adore the fuck out of gwen but this was the scene that made me rage uncontrollably and sort of wish that arthur died alone in a corner with no one to love him ever. i know and have heard all the justifications for his behaviour but idec. also, gwen deserves so much better. SO MUCH BETTER.

[(Anonymous)]

Frankly, I don't get the outrage over this. Don't get me wrong, I get why people are uncomfortable with that scene and etc. but I don't get why people want to bust balls over it. I mean, considering the time period (and the fact that this is Merlin, the place where legends go to die), I think he had a fairly "tame" reaction since he could have had her beheaded or burned at the stake or whatever the fuck he wanted.

Plus, if I was Gwen, I'd be thanking the fuck out of everything because at least I got away from someone who would do that and I didn't have to ever go back.