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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-10 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1925 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-04-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Does she know you're not interested? As someone who has invited friends to church activities (more as a "I don't want to be alone, be a pal and keep me company?" compared to "JESUS WILL SAVE YOU. COME TO CHRIST.") I completely understood when they said they weren't interested in my religion. I had one friend, though, who did not tell me she wasn't interested, and lied to me every time I asked if she wanted to go with me. That hurt a hell of a lot more than just telling me the truth. I know I'm pretty chill compared to a lot of religious people, but maybe try that if you haven't?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awful. I've never understood why people can't just be honest with their feelings.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
some people may be afraid to tell the truth out of fear of hurting said friends' feelings to begin with, so they lie to prevent it? it's kind of a sucky scenario for both parties, but some people find it legit hard to 'be honest with their feelings' because of fear. or guilt. or something along those lines.

just sayin'

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
because when saying "no thanks, I'm not interested in your religion" regularly gets a response of "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL AND YOU DESERVE IT," maybe just avoiding the issue with vague excuses seems like a safer option

because at a certain point, you just say "screw this, I don't want to have this discussion anymore," and the next time someone invites you to X religious thing you just say, "Sorry, busy"

because you never know, the last time you said "not interested" to a seemingly mild-mannered religious person, someone you thought would be totally cool with your whole not-religious thing, it turned out she was a religious nutjob and it ended really badly

not saying that everyone responds with YOU'RE GOING TO HELL

but you know

it happens
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
regularly gets a response of "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL AND YOU DESERVE IT,"

It just seems easier to say "no" once than to lie to them because really, how is that going to make any difference one way or another in the case of the GOING TO HELL people? On the other hand, for the polite people, at least they get a definite answer and won't ask you again (YES there are Christians out there who get the hint the first time and won't harass you to go to church once it's clear you're not interested, believe it or not)

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
DA

that could backfire as well. "oh so you do have time but you're choosing not to? now i have to worry and and about your soul even more." there is really no way to win unless you get a christian who is willing to leave you alone in the first place, and well if you do you're set, but if you don't...
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
"oh so you do have time but you're choosing not to? now i have to worry and and about your soul even more."

It's kinda like you only know evangelical Christians

I'm trying to remember the last time a Catholic friend said something like this to me... hmm.. how about never

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's more that it's evangelicals I'm talking about, and making the point that there isnt a good way to get away from them.

I even said, "unless you get a christian who is willing to leave you alone in the first place" which implied I knew some would. So I don't get what point you're making?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
That's weird, the anon above that we're all replying to doesn't appear to be evangelical if they are telling the truth anyway

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

except you don't say "no" just once, you have to say it every time someone new asks, and sadly one "no" doesn't get forwarded to everyone you ever meet who might invite you to X religious thing, you have to tell people as it comes up

and yes, i know not everyone will harass you on the subject, i already said earlier that not everyone responds with "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL" but it does happen and you can't always be sure how people will react

and some people it's just not worth saying "no" to, like mother's friend's daughter's religious coming-of-age ceremony, it's just easier to make one excuse than risk a nasty response, because you know you won't get invited to anything else again

and there are some people you can't say really "no" to, like people at work because having a colleague refuse to work properly with you because he thinks you're going to hell kind of puts a damper on things

and some people take "no" as a challenge, like "OHOHO you don't believe in X religion now but i can save your soul, now I'm going to invite you to X religious thing EVERY SINGLE WEEK and tell you each time that YOU'RE GOING TO HELL BUT NOT IF YOU COME WITH ME" yes every single week, long after i've run out of different ways of saying "no thanks not interested"

and like i said i know it doesn't happen all the time, and believe me those people are awesome, like the christian friend i had who invited me to her confirmation but said WITHOUT ME SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT that she'd totally understand if i didn't want to go

so believe me, i get that not all religious people are like that

but really don't you see that sometimes being honest and saying "no thanks not interested" is a lot more awful than just saying "sorry, busy"

sad but true
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's true but this is the anon we're all replying to:

Does she know you're not interested? As someone who has invited friends to church activities (more as a "I don't want to be alone, be a pal and keep me company?" compared to "JESUS WILL SAVE YOU. COME TO CHRIST.") I completely understood when they said they weren't interested in my religion.


So I was responding specifically to them, not talking about Christians in a general sense.