[ SECRET POST #1925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

I doubt you'll find anyone anywhere who lists an abortion as a goal they want to achieve. An abortion is an emergency and probably a pretty desperate one if someone is reduced to pan-handling on the internet to fund it. I don't know where the OP lives but if this is what it took for her to get her abortion, it's not likely to be somewhere with easy access to a nearby, safe, low-cost facility. This looks to me like a desperate person in a desperate situation, doing what they had to do. If abortion was free of charge, free of judgement, safe and locally available to all women who want it, as it should be, this sort of subterfuge would be unnecessary. So, she lied to do something that in a just world she shouldn't have to lie about. Big fucking deal. Lesser of two evils.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope, LJ is pretty damn liberal. She didn't have to lie about what she was doing on lj.

It's not even the panhandling, it's the deliberate lying. And no, I don't believe she "had" to. I believe it would not have been pleasant to come clean about this and it was easier to lie, but you know what? That's what makes the OP a shitty person - lying to her friends because it was easier.

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[(Anonymous)]

yeah, all the nasty little so-called pro-lifers leaving comments like "abort yourself" and calling the OP a bitch and wishing harm on her seem mighty liberal

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[(Anonymous)]

OMG!

People reacting badly when the OP admitted to fraud? NO! Must be that LJ is secretly against abortions.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure the anti-abortion comments are coming from anti-choicers

js

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[(Anonymous)]

LJ is not THAT liberal. (And who says that's where they were asking for donations?)

And if she had announced on the internet that she needed money for an abortion and ended up being harassed to the point that people had found out her home address and posted it somewhere (which has happened for less)? Not being able to raise enough money would have been bad enough, but with the harassment on top of that? Fuck that.

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[(Anonymous)]

Here is a way to raise money without disclosing anything that might get you harassed: "Urgent! I need money for a time sensitive, personal matter, that I unfortunately am not comfortable discussing on the internet. [For every $x amount I will y, if applicable.] This is very important to me and I need the money dearly. Please send it to email@paypal."

No lying, no harassing. It's not that hard.

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[(Anonymous)]

And that would have raised how much do you think?

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[(Anonymous)]

Just as much as saying she has a computer problem.

Even if it was a little short, at least the OP would have her moral integrity. There are other ways to raise money if need be.

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[(Anonymous)]

she'd have her moral integrity and an unwanted pregnancy. Bonus time!

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope, she'd have her moral integrity and her abortion too.

Nice try though. :D

We don't know OP stopped at getting exactly the amount of money for the abortion either if you want to play that game.

Or they could say it was for a medical procedure that they don't want to go into detail about.

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[(Anonymous)]

if she's short the money, where's the abortion going to come from?

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[(Anonymous)]

No, you said they'd be short and still have their integrity. If they're short they're not going to have that abortion.

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[(Anonymous)]

da- In a situation similar to the OP's, I wouldn't want moral integrity, I'd want a fucking abortion.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope, other ways to raise money and get an abortion without committing fraud. Try again. She's still a shitty person.

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[(Anonymous)]

Lol, of course a woman's ~moral integrity~ is more important to you than her wellbeing. Of course.

Fuck you.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope, other ways to raise money and get an abortion without committing fraud. Try again. She's still a shitty person.

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[(Anonymous)]

You keep on looking down from your high horse there. I'm sure it makes you feel really good about yourself to keep saying OP's a bad shitty person because she was in a crappy situation and did what she could in order to get out of it. Lucky you, that you've never been there.

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[(Anonymous)]

What other ways? It's nice of you to just say that and not give an example.

Also, remember the time frame!

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[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

And you know what? I get that. She was desperate. Whatever.

But that should be it. Not condoning the OP's behavior. Not applauding it. I wouldn't be so disgusted by this thread if people would quit treating the OP like she's some victim who had no choice in the matter. Fact is, she had a choice. She chose to deceive her friends, and I'm against that. I don't care what your reasons are, you don't do that to people, especially not good people. And this "oh well, but if the world were different..." approach is such utter bull.

Because the world is shitty that justifies amoral behavior? Because the world is shitty you should step on the few genuinely considerate people in it? Can you imagine the kind of world we'd live in if everyone were to think that way?

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[(Anonymous)]

There is a war on abortion rights and some pro-life (oh irony!) elements are quite willing to murder people on the back of it. The OP can do whatever it takes to get her abortion in safety and anonymity. What if her IRL identity was known to people on her flist? What if her location was known? Are those reasons good enough? Get your priorities straight, seriously.

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[(Anonymous)]

The OP was a victim. She was in a desperate enough situation to consider and execute panhandling on the internet. She likely didn't confess it was for an abortion because of the polarizing reaction it elicits (just look at this thread as evidence of that; people telling the OP to abort herself). Sure, the OP is cowardly and morally abject, but she is pitiable, and while your sense of justice is commendable, I suggest you develop a similar sense of mercy if you're going to parade around as a paragon of morality.

That you can dismiss desperation as a valid reason so easily is inexplicable to me.

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[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

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[(Anonymous)]

Didn't you like, just turn eighteen or nineteen or something? Because I seem to remember a comment of yours about that. And, if so, not to say your views aren't valid because of your age, but I think your views are invalid because you're a teenager.

I mean, I agreed with some of your comments on this secret, but you've gotten progressively more moralizing about this, and honestly, your assumption of choice in this matter is bullshit.

I am, in fact, saying your views are invalid because you don't have the life experience to back them up. The not to say your views aren't valid because of your age bit was sarcasm.

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[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I think amethyst_rei is a judgemental jerk, but I doubt it's her age that has anything to do with it. People of all ages can be super judgemental and lacking in empathy.