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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-10 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1925 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
If you're unreligious (irreligious? I'm not sure if that's the right word or not--hopefully that's not offensive, IDK), maybe try thinking of it this way.

Try thinking of a political or social issue you feel very, very strongly about. Gay rights, racial equality, the economy, the environment, gun rights (or gun control), socialism, capitalism, a particular political candidate you're very for or against--doesn't really matter, just something you have very, very strong convictions about. Something you would join a protest for or against, that you talk about on social media and post links to articles or blogs concerning about, the sort of thing you donate time or money to and place a lot of investment in. And let's also just assume that in the past, you've expressed frustration when a friend won't understand that you're not interested in Twilight/Hunger Games/GoT/anime/Mass Effect/JRPGs/extreme yo-yoing, whatever it might be.

If a friend who was on the other side of whatever issue you care about--who maybe has never expressed disinterest in your cause or told you that they were upset or annoyed by the way you promoted it--told you that it was hypocritical for you to not like people trying to get you into That One Fandom because of how passionately you felt about your cause, wouldn't you think that maybe the priority for the two is different? That maybe they're comparing apples and oranges between something that has huge ramifications for the world (or your particular country at least) not just for our generation, but future generations, and a book series that people might not even remember a century or two from now?

Unless fandom is genuinely the most important thing in your life, in which case then...well, yeah, it would seem hypocritical I guess.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't find it different actually. The principle of the thing is the same: you're hounding people to do something or join something. Your motives might be different but your actions are the same and they have the same right to be annoyed at you as you do at the people hounding you. This may make them worse people in your eyes, but the point would still hold.

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, they totally have the right to be annoyed, don't get me wrong--I'm not going to police people for having an emotion, that's stupid--but it's still...not really the same thing, I think. I mean, there's some things that matter enough that maybe it doesn't really matter if it annoys someone when it's brought up, it should still be talked about and discussed.

Of course, even for the REALLY important stuff there's a wrong way and a right way to go about trying to support and get the word out for your beliefs. So I'm not saying that what OP's friend is doing is totally OK. But it's still different than trying to get someone into a hobby of yours.

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, also, I don't want to imply that people are "worse people" for not sharing a belief or ideology of mine, because...I don't know, I think that's a VERY unhealthy attitude to have.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody is saying they're the exact same things. They're saying it's the principle of the thing. There's a difference there.

Murdering someone out of hate is killing someone. Killing someone to protect your child is still killing someone. It's still killing someone and if you believe killing someone is wrong, it should apply to both situations, though one is surely more understandable than the other.

Annoying someone because of fandom and annoying someone because of religion is still annoying someone.

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
OK, gotcha. I think I kinda see your point there.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
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It's kinda like if you hate all telemarketers/telephone solitictors/people asking for donations or w/e. But you believe in a cause like gay rights and join a group and start calling people for donations because you think your cause is higher than the methods used. You're still using the methods you hate other people using on you, regardless of what it's for. Whether you're morally right or not, you're still being a bit of a hypocrite...

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, okay, I completely understand that analogy. You're right, that is sort of hypocritical.