[ SECRET POST #1930 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1930 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can get where you're coming from, OP. I don't see their relationship as any worse (based on irl historical implications) than a lot of what gets shipped in Hetalia fandom, and I think they could be pretty cute together.

[birdboy2000.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this. Yes, there have been wars. There have been atrocities. But these things happen to some degree to pretty much any two countries near each other. There's also a LOT more years of cultural interchange and peaceful coexistence.

I'm not saying anything Japan did in WWII was remotely okay, but there's a lot more to Sino-Japanese relations through the years than the Mukden incident and the Rape of Nanking.

(Besides, all the other countries in the area were part of the Chinese tributary system. Japan/China's the closest thing to a partnership of equals! And I don't even read hetalia enough to have strong shipping opinions why am I writing this post)

[(Anonymous)]

*Anon from above*

Thank you for this! Seriously, thank you! I don't actively ship ChinaxJapan like the OP does (mostly due to lack of available material), but the attitude a lot of Hetalia fans take to the pairing has always really bugged me, and you just spelled out why perfectly.

[(Anonymous)]

Except, you know, the Japanese government never apologized for the war crimes they committed in WWII. Hell, they even tried to conveniently ignore/gloss over the horrible stuff Japan did in their history textbooks (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_history_textbook_controversies#Current_Issues).

Not to mention there are still Class-A war criminals enshrined in the Yasukuni Jinja, a place pretty frequently visited by Japanese prime ministers, high government officials and politicians.

Japan/China's the closest thing to a partnership of equals

LOL. Please, read some history books before you start making assumptions based on what little you know.

[(Anonymous)]

"Except, you know, the Japanese government never apologized for the war crimes they committed in WWII."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

[(Anonymous)]

Demands for an apology and compensation have been a recurring topic in Korean, Taiwanese, and Chinese politics. Many people, including high-ranking officials, continue to assert that Japan has never apologized for its war crimes. In 2010, one comfort woman from Taiwan stated, "It’s unacceptable that the Japanese government still refuses to apologize for what it did." In response to the issue, President Ma Ying-jeou also declared, "It is the responsibility of the Japanese government to admit its mistakes and apologize... The battle is not over yet and it is regretful that the Japanese government still refuses to face its mistakes."
As of 2010, 24% of South Koreans still feel that Japan has never apologized for its colonial rule, while another 58% believe Japan has not apologized sufficiently.

Yeah, that pretty much shows how sincere their so called "apology" sounded.

As long as the Japanese keep Class-A war criminals in their shrine, these apologies mean diddly squat.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, look at America and Japan. Bombing Pearl Harbor, firebombing Tokyo, raping the Okinawa women, A-bombing Nagasaki/Hiroshima... And in the present the people are extremely friendly towards each other.

[(Anonymous)]

That, and there's also the fact that in Hetalia canon, the behaviour of the countries and the behaviour of their governments/people doesn't always seem to line up exactly (See: England continuing to be cold toward America even though our governments have gotten along for decades, Germany's overall discomfort with his "boss"'s behaviour during WWII, etc.), so even if two countries don't have a great relationship historically or in the present, that's not necessarily a good reason not to ship it. Not to mention, all the people who ship Cold War-era America/Russia, but still act like China/Japan is an impossible pairing.

[countess-k.livejournal.com]

I'm no longer in the fandom but I remember this was the feeling I got too: That the 'countries' represented the people and the overall culture more than the government. Sometimes the things the governments did were portrayed as done by the countries (like Russia opening fire on rioting people) but sometimes they were not, like Germany being separate from his WWII 'boss' and looking depressed at his actions.